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Post by cass on Aug 23, 2014 5:47:26 GMT
I finally remember what it feels like to go to bed drunk with the pure pleasure of a good day's writing instead of feeling like I'm nursing a premature hangover from bashing my head into a wall while churning out 40-page papers for five different graduate courses. Cheers!
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 24, 2014 3:16:56 GMT
you aren't the only one experiencing pure pleasure from your writing!
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 26, 2014 23:07:53 GMT
Welcome to the world of pleasure!
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Post by cass on Aug 27, 2014 3:58:32 GMT
Ha, it's nice to be back. I'm currently experiencing a mixture of emotions as I just spent about $3000 in ten seconds on an undergraduate loan payoff and repairs on my van. But I'm making progress toward coming out of the university rut and reintegrating myself into the real world, yay! Here's to hoping that will continue and spill over into an excess of writing similar to when I first began. Being able to write again has been the single factor keeping me from running straight back for a PhD, I kid you not. It's not that I don't enjoy having a social life, seeing my family, and having a church family again, but... writing brings me back to myself. I want to hang onto it for a while and clear up some unfinished business before I start chasing more academic/career goals. That's how monumental it is for me to be in this state once more. It's a good place to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 7:21:33 GMT
Wow cass.... you busy thing! I can totally relate to you. Most people around here know my background, but in case you've missed it, I'm a research scientist with a PhD in cell biology and I've worked doing research into cancer, wound healing and genetic liver diseases but due to the lack of consistent funding plus I'm a busy mum of 3 (my youngest is 10 months old) - my job got made redundant while I was on maternity leave, I'm now back studying doing a diploma of education at night while my kids sleep and i'm up to my eyeballs in assignments at the present. BUT.... writing and reading fanfic is about the only thing (apart from my husband) that keeps me sane so while I don't have the time to write honestly, I love it so much that I squeeze it in at every opportunity. But enough about me, getting back to you... I'm pleased you have your life back and you've now got more time to write. Enjoy the freedom (and stay away from the PhD......)
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Post by cass on Aug 27, 2014 16:26:16 GMT
Wow cass.... you busy thing! I can totally relate to you. Most people around here know my background, but in case you've missed it, I'm a research scientist with a PhD in cell biology and I've worked doing research into cancer, wound healing and genetic liver diseases but due to the lack of consistent funding plus I'm a busy mum of 3 (my youngest is 10 months old) - my job got made redundant while I was on maternity leave, I'm now back studying doing a diploma of education at night while my kids sleep and i'm up to my eyeballs in assignments at the present. @charleybec, that is so cool. I wish I had the love for science that it takes to do that kind of thing, since I find it so fascinating, and wanted to be a veterinarian, once upon a time, but my reality was that even though I did manage to scrape top scores in all subjects, math, physics, and science were the ones where I had to work for it to a level of misery (except calculus. I love calculus) and it wasn't worth it to me once I realized a) I love to write and b) I have a talent for languages that is hard to come by. So, here I am... I received and accepted my fully-funded package with an assistantship literally the day before I graduated last year, and completed what is normally a two-year Master's program in ten months with the highest marks in my graduating class in the department. I still don't believe it, sometimes. I won't do such an insane thing ever again, but I honestly don't regret it. I had a ball, learned a lot, and vastly expanded my career opportunities outside the Ivory Tower. But alas... the Ivory Tower is what I live and breathe, so I'll be back eventually. I am an undisputed university rat, and my dearest ambition in life is to be a linguistics professor. I console myself with the fact that someday in the distant future, when I'm the professor and not the student, I'll be able to strike a healthier balance between my intellectual brainchild of the moment and my personal itches to write, and no one can tell me otherwise. For now, I accept that "balance" is a fleeting condition and that it has to be one before the other. Right now, I choose personal needs over intellectual ones. My brain is tired of being picked at! BUT.... writing and reading fanfic is about the only thing (apart from my husband) that keeps me sane so while I don't have the time to write honestly, I love it so much that I squeeze it in at every opportunity. I know this feeling all too well. *sigh* I was better about it as an undergrad, but as a grad student, it was more of a pipe dream. I did have moments where I sorely wished I had the time or energy where I could just escape into my fanfiction, and I would try, but I'd often wind up trading that time in for sleep or food. When I did pick the fanfiction, I was usually reading it, not writing, mostly because I was so sick and tired of writing, which would frustrate me even more, so then I'd just go back to ignoring my nagging muse. I'm pleased you have your life back and you've now got more time to write. Enjoy the freedom (and stay away from the PhD......) So am I... but fat chance! I think my graduate record examination scores are good for two or three more years, and I am NOT taking that atrocity of an exam again (never mind paying for it), so I'll probably be reapplying to PhD programs within one or two admission cycles. Until then... my only plans are working my butt off and writing my fingers off.
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 27, 2014 17:49:02 GMT
Great stuff!
Out of interest, I have always been curious about the education levels of people on this board; it started with the previous Proboard site when Sandra/Shahrazad (from ff.net and the previous founder)said she had a PhD in Astrophysics! Thereafter she was a lawyer, but it surprised me, and continues to surprise me how wonderfully well-qualified many TSOM-lovers are.
No problem if qualifications aren't your thing, but anyone else been through the university treadmill? Or got something else you are proud of?
For my part, I have a medical degree and membership of a royal college. What's yours?
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Post by cass on Aug 27, 2014 18:19:20 GMT
One of my favourite things is talking about school! Yay!
I went through high school in Honors classes and found myself bored, unchallenged, and annoyed with the system, so I enrolled in a state-paid program and went to college full-time for my last two years, in which I earned dual credit for college and high school requirements and earned two associate's degrees (Arts and Science) a month before even graduating high school (2011). Immediately thereafter, I transferred to a four-year university and finished up my BA degree (2013). I went in for linguistics, and theoretically could have finished in a year, but since the course requirements were laid out on a specific timetable, I had to stay for two years and ended up tacking on a double major in political science just because I could. I finished off that year by applying to several PhD programs in linguistics and, in a move of complete desperation, applied last minute to my university's political science MA program. Finished up that one and graduated in May.
As I said above, my ambition in life is to be a professor of linguistics, but I also am aiming for language-based research, codebreaking, and the likes with the US Department of State or possibly the Navy, and I have entertained the idea of law school. I find myself more open to it as the years go on, though most of the people pushing me in that direction have never seen me go into a spastic geek mode over phonetics and phonology. I'm basically Henry Higgins. But I adore foreign and security policy, and there's plenty of legal fodder there, so... we'll see. I'm never bored, to say the least.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 22:14:18 GMT
Wow cass.... just wow! I bow to your awesomeness!! Just for everyone else, to clarify... don't let my qualifications fool you.... I'm also blond and can be incredibly stupid at times!! lol!! .... and I hate being bored.
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Post by utility_singer on Aug 28, 2014 2:10:20 GMT
Mine are quite boring---went to university to become a music teacher; couldn't get the piano proficiency (scored a 32 out of a minimum 70 on a 100 point scoring); had enough credits for a Bachelor of Music/Classical Vocal Performance degree, so that is what my diploma says. That and $2 got me a cup of coffee, so I worked as a teacher assistant while earning my Teacher of the Handicapped/developmental disabilities certificate. Needed another 18 credits for a master's but wasn't interested. Taught for 10 years, I've been an at-home mom for 14 years now. And I regret nothing. Except maybe that failed piano test
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Post by lemacd on Aug 28, 2014 3:38:30 GMT
I have a B.A. In communication w/ a concentration in journalism. Yeah, I'm yawning just thinking about it too.
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Post by lemacd on Aug 28, 2014 3:41:14 GMT
I have a B.A. In communication w/ a concentration in journalism. Yeah, I'm yawning just thinking about it too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 3:53:44 GMT
All these clever people. I love you all.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 28, 2014 14:33:18 GMT
Wow. This IS an impressive group! (And lemacd do you think there's any connection between your field of study and your writerly gifts?) What appears to distingush me from many of you (and definitely cass) is that I was a very good student but I didn't like academia. I was supposed to go to law school and, two months before starting, broke my parents' hearts by deciding to get a masters in a new public policy program because that's what really interested me. Many people stayed on for the PhD but I went right to work in a series of dream jobs and haven't regretted it. I've worked my whole career surrounded by MDs, PhDs and so on, and I really admire their brilliance! I am the only person in my organization without that kind of degree, but they keep me around anyway. Obviously for my sparkling personality. My husband went the other way. He did dutifully go to law school, and was poised for what could have been a very lucrative life in practice, but he yearned to be in academia. He was lucky to be able to make the switch and is obviously happy as a professor, writing books, teaching, so on. I wouldn't last a week in his job.
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Post by cass on Aug 28, 2014 19:11:51 GMT
The funny thing about teaching as a prof is that the majority of your students can be truly awful, and it doesn't really matter in the end because between the ones who actually care putting in the necessary work to learn and the fact that you're imparting knowledge you love to sprout more love of learning, rather than simply trying to get everyone by under a forced set of standards, makes all the difference. And the crap students make great stories. My favourite one is "I just had a bad day, so you should let me retake the exam." Yeah, how about no. augiesannie, I think it's wonderful that you did what you wanted to do. It seems you've been richly rewarded for that, and there's no replacing it. Sometimes I think I need more focus, haha, but my bottom line is returning to academia, where freedom of thought is muuuuuch more celebrated, so it doesn't really matter that I want to devote my life to researching such a mix of things, both separately and apart. Just need that PhD. I'm qualified to teach political science but it'd be bottom rung stuff to the point of doldrums.
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 28, 2014 22:19:09 GMT
I love reading about people who do what they really want to do - I fully intended to follow the Arts at school until my parents stepped in and 'encouraged' me(?)to do sciences...medicine was the only thing I could see myself doing, so that duly took up the next 30 years of my life until kids arrived. In my maturity I can see that it was probably the best option for me, but my artistic/creative side has been severely stunted for so long, especially since we had 3 nippers in 5 years!
So when you see weird floor plans and diagrams from me, with reams of screencaps telling silly stories, you can be sure that is some of my suppressed creative side at last finding a venue, and it feels great being able to vent it! Thank you for being here!
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Post by cass on Aug 29, 2014 1:01:12 GMT
Updated the title of this topic to better reflect what this has turned into! What fun it is! I love seeing what all of you have studied and gone on to do with your lives. It's so inspiring, especially as you all have kids. augiesannie, what kind of public policy work do you do? I'm curious since I took a handful of classes on public administration issues last year and spent a good deal of it writing public policy analysis memos and generally learning how the government deals with it on a state and federal level. lemacd, you made me laugh there, hahaha. My boss (who is a male of 25, which says plenty) was a communications major and before I could even give him crap for it (the van was filled with political science majors), he started extolling its virtues as the quickest and easiest major for anyone to do in an attempt to jump the shark. I'm still laughing almost six months later, since he also managed to call himself lazy and stupid in that glorious defense and I didn't say a word to stop him as he did so. That was a fun car ride to the capital. He's moving back home to Tennessee and I'll be sorry to see him go. *sigh* He's very cute. But anyway, did you like it? Do you use it specifically career-wise, or does it the writing aspect just get channeled into fanfic these days? I'm always curious to see what people with very generalized, broad majors do with them.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 29, 2014 1:56:47 GMT
the smartest people in my office are communications professionals! indigoblue, we are going to get you writing someday! Your tour of the villa was, well, a tour de force. cass, I keep at least a fig leaf of anonymity on this site, so I won't answer your question here, but if you PM me I will tell you more. (but it's not that interesting!)
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Post by cass on Aug 29, 2014 2:12:43 GMT
the smartest people in my office are communications professionals! I don't doubt it. It's a given (but usually good natured) prejudice at my school to rag on certain majors, usually for the poor approach/applicability and future employability. Comm happens to be one of them since there's such a glut these days, and my boss did it and its followers no service whatsoever. He's sweet and cute, but a little stupid sometimes. I wanted to tell him to cut himself some slack since he's good at what he does, but it was too funny to listen to him bury himself. The other majors that get a bad rap, at least at my school, tend to be (non-med track) psychology, business, and English. But don't mistake me, I can easily turn around and defend them as readily as my own preferred subjects (but seriously, why argue over interpretations of literature for a grade when you can just write fanfic? You're almost guaranteed to find a following of people that agree with you no matter what).
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Post by lemacd on Aug 29, 2014 3:10:51 GMT
generally, i would agree with your assessment of a communications degree. but people i studied with have gone on to PR, politics, sportscasting (that guy and i had a news editing class at 8am and we were the only two to show up almost every time. i aced the course on that fact alone, i'm sure), publishing, humanitarian work, writing of fiction, non-fiction, children's lit, the list goes on...
as for me, i taught ESL in japan for the better part of the 90s, worked in a bank, taught writing and music and then became a mom. i was not a student. i tried hard but it never paid off like i thought it should or hoped. but that degree? because of that degree, i met a woman named gail. because of gail, i went to a country called japan. because i went to japan, i met a man named bill. because i met bill, i became the mother of christian and michael. and because i became the mother of christian and michael, i've learned what is important. and because i've learned that, i am happy. probably happier than i have a right to be, but there it is.
i haven't been in the work force since 2005. my resume is a joke. i'm in total awe of all of you and your brilliance and drive and in a way only someone who doesn't really know you, i'm proud of all of you.
*sniff* group hug
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Post by cass on Aug 29, 2014 3:54:20 GMT
Awww, lemacd, I feel the same. I very nearly went for ESL training in grad school, but between that or political science, I'd rather spend my time being analytical to a fault, plus now I can work for any government agency I want. I would probably enjoy ESL if it weren't another year or two of certification and training, and when it comes down to it, I'd sooner learn and teach French than teach English, and that's saying a great deal, as I have no love for French beyond its fascinating phonological challenges. And hey, you have the things in life that some people can only dream of. Sometimes, that husband and those children feel very far away to me, and those are the only things in life that I want which have the power to rival my love of learning and drive to get it. So, don't sell yourself short! It is truly a great gift.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:23:14 GMT
as for me, i taught ESL in japan for the better part of the 90s, worked in a bank, taught writing and music and then became a mom. i was not a student. i tried hard but it never paid off like i thought it should or hoped. but that degree? because of that degree, i met a woman named gail. because of gail, i went to a country called japan. because i went to japan, i met a man named bill. because i met bill, i became the mother of christian and michael. and because i became the mother of christian and michael, i've learned what is important. and because i've learned that, i am happy. probably happier than i have a right to be, but there it is. lemacd, I love this story (of course with all the complicated ins and outs that went along with it). As you know, I'm one of your biggest fans and I think you rock! (and you're a wonderful mother too)
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Post by serialshippersince4e on Aug 29, 2014 9:38:29 GMT
I have just finished high school and starting this Monday I will be an Economics undergrad! It has maths and a bit of both politics and history, all of them subjects that I do love
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Post by utility_singer on Aug 29, 2014 11:45:12 GMT
I love this.
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Post by cass on Aug 29, 2014 13:33:52 GMT
I have just finished high school and starting this Monday I will be an Economics undergrad! It has maths and a bit of both politics and history, all of them subjects that I do love Congrats! I hope you enjoy it!! I love history but only ever took one formal course in college. I am crazy, so I jumped right into a third year-level course on the Dutch Golden Age, basically for the hell of it, and loved it. I learned some Dutch off the prof and he loved my papers, so it worked out nicely.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 29, 2014 14:59:26 GMT
I have just finished high school and starting this Monday I will be an Economics undergrad! It has maths and a bit of both politics and history, all of them subjects that I do love Economics is a great choice! It does tend to have a permanent influence on the way you think about everything around you, so watch out!!!
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Post by serialshippersince4e on Aug 29, 2014 17:20:13 GMT
UPDATE Re: Economics Since my school is the top business school in the country, they have this habit to make a welcome lunch for the freshmen who had the best application scores. This year it was today and I was one of them. It happens that after getting to know each other a bit I learnt that one of them had just spent about a year studying music, guess where? Salzburg! And even better, another one of them is named... Christopher! I think you can guess how much I was trying not to fangirl all over these facts!
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Post by serialshippersince4e on Aug 29, 2014 17:26:14 GMT
cass cool! In the 3rd year I think I'll have a 20th century European history class! And I'd LOVE to learn Dutch! augiesannie I am very aware of that! I think the effect has already started even if the classes haven't yet
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 0:55:36 GMT
mireille is from the Netherlands if you ever wanted help with learning Dutch
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Post by paula on Aug 31, 2014 6:04:12 GMT
UPDATE Re: Economics Since my school is the top business school in the country, they have this habit to make a welcome lunch for the freshmen who had the best application scores. This year it was today and I was one of them. It happens that after getting to know each other a bit I learnt that one of them had just spent about a year studying music, guess where? Salzburg! And even better, another one of them is named... Christopher! I think you can guess how much I was trying not to fangirl all over these facts! Does he look anything like Christopher Plummer?
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