Sorcha
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Post by Sorcha on Dec 25, 2015 17:27:24 GMT
Maybe revisiting something old here, but what do people think about Georg's age...because Christopher Plummer easily portrays him as mid-forties....but then Julian Ovenden looks younger (maybe that's me???). Thoughts?
 
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 25, 2015 18:26:17 GMT
Yes, I thought Julian looked younger. They might have tried to age him a bit more, I think. And Chris was really only mid 30s himself, elsewhere we have laughed about the somewhat inconsistent way they age him in different photos and scenes. I always think of Georg as 46-47 ish, because I find the age difference kinda sexy, but some people want him younger (and Maria older, so the difference is less).
The real Georg was 47 I think, of course the whole timeline was different because they got married in 1927.
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Post by utility_singer on Dec 25, 2015 19:58:46 GMT
Their real ages were 47 and 22 when they married.
Chris easily plays Georg as early 40s (IMO), and Julie's Maria to me seems about 23/24.
I haven't watched the UK TSOM Live yet, but in the photos above Julian looks about the same age as Chris.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Dec 25, 2015 21:32:02 GMT
CP's Georg looks older or younger depending on the scene, his hair becomes magically less grey as the movie goes on, lol. The age difference between Chris and Julie was only about 6 years. In the two pics you chose of them, they look about the same age to me.
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Post by nicky on Dec 26, 2015 8:53:47 GMT
I also think in the photos above they look the same age but in the production itself I think Julian Ovenden looked younger than CP. Whilst JO has a fantastic singing voice, for me the only Captain Von Trapp is Christopher Plummer but that says more about my obsessional nature than it does about JO or his portrayal of the Captain. Having said that I think CP is hands down the more handsome of the two.
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Sorcha
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Post by Sorcha on Dec 26, 2015 11:51:46 GMT
So about early/mid forties...that makes sense cause I was trying to work it out in relation to the fact that Georg's a war hero plus having a sixteen year old daughter so he has to be a certain age to fit all of that in! I've just come to the conclusion that they're both utterly gorgeous...clarinetjamie that's so funny that his hair gets less grey!!!
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 27, 2015 20:01:02 GMT
Loooove the way he's looking at her in your avatar. Yum.
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Post by grammarye on Oct 16, 2016 4:36:27 GMT
I would like to point out that Julian Ovenden is closer in age to the real Georg than Christopher Plummer was because at the time of the movie's release, Christopher Plummer was 35 (he was born December 1929), while Julian Ovenden is 39 and had turned 39 just before the live special aired. Obviously, he ages well.
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Post by sandra on Oct 17, 2016 3:24:40 GMT
I'm with nicky in the sense that I can only envision Christopher Plummer as Georg. Any other actor pales in comparison, and I've seen several Georgs on the internet. Chris truly spoiled me for anyone else. I don't know if that makes me obsessive too, but that's the way it is. When The Sound of Music the musical opened in Madrid a few years ago I was elated, although a part of me worried that no actor would be good enough to play Georg. Boy, was I right! When I found out that Carlos Hipolito would play the part, my heart sank. He's got a lovely singing voice and he's a fine actor, but next to Christopher Plummer it was like getting Danny DeVito to play Superman, if you know what I mean. I couldn't bring myself to see the musical because I simply couldn't take the main couple seriously. Okay, maybe I am obsessive! :/ Regarding Georg and Maria's ages, in my mind Maria's 24 years old and Georg is 42-44. Somehow, I pictured them that age when I first saw the film when I was 13 years old. It just felt right. P.S. Since we're at it, Christopher Reeve spoiled me for any other Superman, so I guess that settles it. I'm obs--- firm in my convictions.  |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 17, 2016 3:30:23 GMT
I don't think it's obsessive, but I am ok with watching others play the part if they play somewhat well and there are some good ones out there. There is a really great high school production on YouTube from the Kings Academy and the whole thing was amazingly done. I don't think anyone will ever match Christopher Plummer, but I'm ok with seeing others try and fail. |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Oct 17, 2016 4:37:24 GMT
No one will match Chris because the movie is the only version out there where Georg is a fully fleshed out, consistent character. As much as I love the musical, I think it has issues with the characters no matter who plays them. Every character except Maria is lacking, in my opinion; but that's what happens when you write the show around a specific actress I guess. Julie and Chris are doing performances different to ANYONE ELSE portraying that character, since every version other than the movie is based on the musical.
As far as ITV Live goes, Julian and Kara had a seven year age gap, to Julie and Chris' six.
Also, it was an awesome production. Kara's Maria is now the visual for Maria's best friend in my stories.
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 17, 2016 10:31:02 GMT
Christopher Plummer put such an intensity and depth of character into Georg that he seems to have true integrity.
For me, therefore, CP is the 'real' Georg, and everyone else is just pretending.
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 8, 2021 10:48:11 GMT
just bumping this exchange because I thought it was a fun one. I love Julian Ovenden although i didn't like his smarmy character in Bridgerton.
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Post by indigoblue on Jul 8, 2021 23:27:38 GMT
Does anyone else find the age gap between 47 and 22 a bit...hmmm ?!
Sorry Augiesannie, but our eldest is 22 and the thought of her marrying a 47 yr old is ...!
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Post by utility_singer on Jul 9, 2021 11:52:15 GMT
Does anyone else find the age gap between 47 and 22 a bit...hmmm ?! Sorry Augiesannie, but our eldest is 22 and the thought of her marrying a 47 yr old is ...! I don't, but I've always had a soft spot for older men. My current companion is nearly 20 years my senior. I remember in college, someone commented that the recently deceased Cary Grant "used to be such a hottie" and when I said he still had been attractive when he passed, being looked at like I had three heads. Also, remember the times. Historically, men marrying much younger women wasn't for vanity, showing off their arm candy. It was practical, they could have more children (in a time when children surviving to adulthood wasn't necessarily a given), and for the women marrying a man established with home, income, and stability was certainly a positive thing. That Georg actually loved Maria was the icing on the cake. |
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Post by indigoblue on Jul 9, 2021 22:55:41 GMT
I can see that for Maria, it gave her the prospect of a stable and prosperous life which might otherwise have been beyond her grasp.
And as for Cary Grant - well, yes. A Hottie alright.
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 11, 2021 0:36:28 GMT
In real life it's not like she was madly in love with him when she married him. I have sometimes thought of trying to write a realistic story about their wedding night, now that would be a different sort of story to be sure!
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Post by Chris&Byng on Jul 28, 2021 0:15:34 GMT
Does anyone else find the age gap between 47 and 22 a bit...hmmm ?! Sorry Augiesannie, but our eldest is 22 and the thought of her marrying a 47 yr old is ...! I don't, but I've always had a soft spot for older men. My current companion is nearly 20 years my senior. I remember in college, someone commented that the recently deceased Cary Grant "used to be such a hottie" and when I said he still had been attractive when he passed, being looked at like I had three heads. Also, remember the times. Historically, men marrying much younger women wasn't for vanity, showing off their arm candy. It was practical, they could have more children (in a time when children surviving to adulthood wasn't necessarily a given), and for the women marrying a man established with home, income, and stability was certainly a positive thing. That Georg actually loved Maria was the icing on the cake. I'm with you on this one - my husband and I are 20 + years apart. Granted, I am quite sure my mother had cerebral apoplexy, so I appreciate that perspective as well. |
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 28, 2021 11:33:24 GMT
Ironically, having stated that I find the big age difference sexy, I’m married to someone who is just short of five months older than me. I had two serious boyfriends before him, both of whom were more like 6-8 years older than me, (but I am talking about myself in my early twenties so it felt like a lot), and when I met my husband it was such a novel experience to be with someone who was also still figuring things out, I liked it immediately! However in my TSOM world I am sticking with the age difference.
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Post by Chris&Byng on Jul 29, 2021 3:15:48 GMT
and from personal experience...the older you get, the age difference seems less shocking to others. When you're 22 and marrying someone who is 46, there are many people who are kind enough to point out that 'he's old enough to be your father, you know?' (sheesh). But when you are in your 40s and he is in his 60s, they are like 'meh'!
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 29, 2021 5:27:24 GMT
and from personal experience...the older you get, the age difference seems less shocking to others. When you're 22 and marrying someone who is 46, there are many people who are kind enough to point out that 'he's old enough to be your father, you know?' (sheesh). But when you are in your 40s and he is in his 60s, they are like 'meh'! I’m having fun thinking of responses to “he’s old enough to be your father” but the first one that comes to mind is “ew! What made you think of that!” |
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Post by Chris&Byng on Jul 30, 2021 1:31:15 GMT
and from personal experience...the older you get, the age difference seems less shocking to others. When you're 22 and marrying someone who is 46, there are many people who are kind enough to point out that 'he's old enough to be your father, you know?' (sheesh). But when you are in your 40s and he is in his 60s, they are like 'meh'! I’m having fun thinking of responses to “he’s old enough to be your father” but the first one that comes to mind is “ew! What made you think of that!” My typical response was usually a good dose of sarcasm:
**Look suprised/tilt your head** "Oh really? You know, I am so glad you pointed that out to me because I never had thought of that before!" **smirks and walks away**  |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jul 30, 2021 21:58:25 GMT
and from personal experience...the older you get, the age difference seems less shocking to others. When you're 22 and marrying someone who is 46, there are many people who are kind enough to point out that 'he's old enough to be your father, you know?' (sheesh). But when you are in your 40s and he is in his 60s, they are like 'meh'! 100% this. I have a very substantial age difference with my husband, but when we got together, I felt like we were old enough that it didn't matter. We had a lot of family and friends that disagreed. There were many things said that can not ever be unsaid. We look back on it and laugh now, having been married for many years and having a fantastic loving happy marriage. Ironically, many of the people who had problems with us initially are divorced or in dysfunctional marriages now. It just goes to show, couples who look good on paper (Georg and Elsa, for example), might not always be the right match, and couples who society scoffs at (Georg and Maria) might be able to make each other happy forever. It does make the wedding scene a little tough for me though. Maria is walking along knowing that so many people in attendance disapprove of the wedding they are attending. I have been there. And it sucks. |
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Post by Chris&Byng on Jul 31, 2021 1:32:31 GMT
and from personal experience...the older you get, the age difference seems less shocking to others. When you're 22 and marrying someone who is 46, there are many people who are kind enough to point out that 'he's old enough to be your father, you know?' (sheesh). But when you are in your 40s and he is in his 60s, they are like 'meh'! 100% this. I have a very substantial age difference with my husband, but when we got together, I felt like we were old enough that it didn't matter. We had a lot of family and friends that disagreed. There were many things said that can not ever be unsaid. We look back on it and laugh now, having been married for many years and having a fantastic loving happy marriage. Ironically, many of the people who had problems with us initially are divorced or in dysfunctional marriages now. It just goes to show, couples who look good on paper (Georg and Elsa, for example), might not always be the right match, and couples who society scoffs at (Georg and Maria) might be able to make each other happy forever. It does make the wedding scene a little tough for me though. Maria is walking along knowing that so many people in attendance disapprove of the wedding they are attending. I have been there. And it sucks. **hugs** I TOTALLY know what you mean. It could have been me saying what you just said. In the end, it's great to know you (& Maria/Georg) said 'heck with this' and did what makes you happy. I always figured if you can have 20 years of bliss, isn't that better than 20 years of 'meh' if you did what society suggested is 'normal'? This is probably one of the best messages of the movie, which is why it always rings true especially for me. |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jul 31, 2021 20:37:13 GMT
100% this. I have a very substantial age difference with my husband, but when we got together, I felt like we were old enough that it didn't matter. We had a lot of family and friends that disagreed. There were many things said that can not ever be unsaid. We look back on it and laugh now, having been married for many years and having a fantastic loving happy marriage. Ironically, many of the people who had problems with us initially are divorced or in dysfunctional marriages now. It just goes to show, couples who look good on paper (Georg and Elsa, for example), might not always be the right match, and couples who society scoffs at (Georg and Maria) might be able to make each other happy forever. It does make the wedding scene a little tough for me though. Maria is walking along knowing that so many people in attendance disapprove of the wedding they are attending. I have been there. And it sucks. **hugs** I TOTALLY know what you mean. It could have been me saying what you just said. In the end, it's great to know you (& Maria/Georg) said 'heck with this' and did what makes you happy. I always figured if you can have 20 years of bliss, isn't that better than 20 years of 'meh' if you did what society suggested is 'normal'? This is probably one of the best messages of the movie, which is why it always rings true especially for me. *Hugs* right back at ya. Honestly, it doesn't bother me anymore. It was just relevent to this thread so I shared. And yes, I am so glad that I didn't listen to the naysayers. I wouldn't have the wonderful life that I have now if I did. I'm glad you are happy in your situation too. You have to live the life you were born to live  |
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Post by Chris&Byng on Aug 1, 2021 15:27:52 GMT
**hugs** I TOTALLY know what you mean. It could have been me saying what you just said. In the end, it's great to know you (& Maria/Georg) said 'heck with this' and did what makes you happy. I always figured if you can have 20 years of bliss, isn't that better than 20 years of 'meh' if you did what society suggested is 'normal'? This is probably one of the best messages of the movie, which is why it always rings true especially for me. *Hugs* right back at ya. Honestly, it doesn't bother me anymore. It was just relevent to this thread so I shared. And yes, I am so glad that I didn't listen to the naysayers. I wouldn't have the wonderful life that I have now if I did. I'm glad you are happy in your situation too. You have to live the life you were born to live indeed we have - I agree, it's almost a joke now when people decide to say something or give you 'the look' ! |
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