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Post by clarinetjamie on Mar 25, 2016 18:36:05 GMT
Seth McFarlane is good, but nobody beats Robert Preston in that role. He made the character of Harold Hill.
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Post by utility_singer on Mar 26, 2016 1:47:15 GMT
Seth McFarlane is good, but nobody beats Robert Preston in that role. He made the character of Harold Hill. Well, of course not. But since he has passed on, someone else would have to take it on. The TV version with Matthew Broderick and Kristen Chenoweth was okay, but he was too earnest and she was too brittle in the way they portrayed the characters. Seth is slick enough to make you think he's a con man.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Mar 26, 2016 19:56:00 GMT
Oh I agree with that. Mathew Broderick was ok, but Seth would do much better.
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Post by UndoubtedlyTheWine on Jun 26, 2017 13:53:57 GMT
Has anyone watched the movie "La La Land"?
I watched it the other day. It was nice but I felt it was highly over rated.
What do you guys think about modern day musicals compared to old ones?
I mean I can watch TSOM and MFL over and over again but certainly not La La Land.
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Post by INeverExplainAnything on Jun 26, 2017 15:01:00 GMT
Has anyone watched the movie "La La Land"? I watched it the other day. It was nice but I felt it was highly over rated. What do you guys think about modern day musicals compared to old ones? I mean I can watch TSOM and MFL over and over again but certainly not La La Land. Yeah I saw it at the cinema when it came out. I did enjoy it, though it was mostly because my boyfriend took me to see it and I had no idea what it was about and expected something awful (we have drastically different film tastes) so when they started singing I was like "Yay!". But I wouldn't bother to see it again. I was just re-watching a TSOM scene for a fic I'm writing and just ended up watching half the movie by accident. It just sucked me in. I can't recall any new film musicals that have done that. Though I did enjoy the new Beauty and the Beast if that counts. I could listen to Dan Stevens sing "Evermore" for hours.
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Post by UndoubtedlyTheWine on Jun 26, 2017 15:46:14 GMT
Yeah Beauty and the Beast was nice. Also the songs from La La Land are easily forgettable
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Post by eve93 on Jun 26, 2017 15:53:09 GMT
I liked La La Land, but like you said, not to watch it over and over again, I also felt it was overrated. I watched it with my parents and we all enjoyed it, but it will take a couple of years at least before we see it again. I enjoyed Beauty and The Beast more, but I grew up on the animated version. INeverExplainAnything I do like Dan Stevens' version, though I prefer the Josh Groban version in the end credits.
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Post by INeverExplainAnything on Jun 27, 2017 2:53:51 GMT
Yeah so true. It was pretty unforgettable. Same eve93, Disney was my life when I was a little girl haha though I preferred all the older ones. Not a Josh Groban fan but his version is still nice. I just like that deep voice, oh baby! haha
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Post by utility_singer on Jun 27, 2017 15:57:48 GMT
I've not seen La La Land, but from what I've been told by friends who have is that the opening number is wonderful but it is all downhill from there. I'm not a fan of the two leads, so I really had no desire to spend money to see it.
I also haven't seen Beauty and the Beast. I'm so in love with the animated version that I can't really wrap my head around a live action one yet. Eventually I may watch it.
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Post by lemacd on Jun 28, 2017 4:48:55 GMT
Haven't seen La La Land. Wanted to when it came out but if I don't move quick to see something, the desire fades (that happened with B&tB too).
I was up all night last night watching Audrey Hepburn movies for reasons and mentioned it to a woman I don't know very well and she mentioned that she loves old movies, that in college her and her roommate used to watch musicals non-stop and she started rattling off musicals. me: well, of course the best movie musical ever is The Sound of Music... her: OH YES HOW COULD I NOT SAY THAT ONE FIRST WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!
Lord of the Musicals... one musical to rule them all.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 28, 2017 19:17:56 GMT
Ok I answered this already, but I feel I have to edit a bit because I have found that there is a big difference in my favorites on screen and on stage.
My favorite on-screen musical is The Sound Of Music. I just think the movie version is better than the stage production. There are things about the stage play I like and I would totally go see it, but I like the movie best.
My favorite stage production is Phantom Of The Opera. I just love the music and the characters and the costumes and while I like the original cast I have decided that my favorite Phantom is Ramin Karimloo. There is just something hauntingly beautiful about the way he sings and acts the role. If you haven't ever watched the 25th anniversary showing from London then I highly recommend it. It blows the 2004 movie out of the water. POTO USA touring company is coming to town here in August of 2018 and I'm saving my money to go and see it.
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Post by thebeestings on Jul 7, 2017 20:24:25 GMT
clarinetjamie said: Me too! I just love it. It's my favorite Although I am so old I saw Michael Crawford as the Phantom and I just can't seem to love anyone more than him but I will be sure to check out Ramin Karimloo )
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jul 18, 2017 8:58:14 GMT
Michael Crawford was fabulous and will always be special for being the original, but there was just something about the chemistry between Ramin Karimloo and Sarah Boggess that was spectacular. The 25th was very well done. He almost won a Tony for his role as Jean Valjean in Les Mes. He was incredible in that and I'm surprised he didn't win it. Oh well. He and Sarah also originated the phantom and Christine roles in Love Never Dies. The play wasn't that successful, but not because of them. It just was kind of awkward and never really lived up to the caliber of POTO. It had some gorgeous music in it though.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jul 19, 2017 6:03:54 GMT
I really liked Love Never Dies. (Though I have seen it on stage, while I've only seen the 25th anniversary of Phantom on DVD) Being a sequel to Phantom it was hard not to live up to it. And yeah, the story is ridiculous in places. But I think the music is amazing! I could listen to Anna O'Byrne sing 'Love Never Dies' forever.
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Post by INeverExplainAnything on Jul 20, 2017 3:22:31 GMT
I really liked Love Never Dies. (Though I have seen it on stage, while I've only seen the 25th anniversary of Phantom on DVD) Being a sequel to Phantom it was hard not to live up to it. And yeah, the story is ridiculous in places. But I think the music is amazing! I could listen to Anna O'Byrne sing 'Love Never Dies' forever. I've never seen LND on stage but would love to be able to! I could listen to Anna O'Byrne sing anything to be honest, she is absolutely amazing.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jul 20, 2017 17:51:53 GMT
Yes, I agree, the song Love Never Dies is gorgeous. If I ever have the opportunity to sing it, I'll take it. LND is coming to my town in either January or February. I'm tempted to see if I can get tickets. I've heard that the stage production is much better than that Australian DVD version. We will see because I'm honestly saving my money for POTO next August.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jul 21, 2017 1:25:18 GMT
Considering I saw the Australian production, I couldn't give you the best answer. What I saw basically was the DVD, so the only real difference was being in the theatre. Which is something you can't get with a DVD regardless of the show.
I hope you enjoy whatever you see.
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Post by INeverExplainAnything on Aug 30, 2017 5:21:21 GMT
Has anyone seen the new Anastasia musical on Broadway (or planning on seeing it)? It's meant to come to Australia some time but it takes a million years for stuff to get to us >___> I've been listening to the broadway recording and I'm so obsessed, I used to love the film when I was little. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx3Ddcrgldg
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Post by itsdayandnight on Dec 21, 2020 15:57:54 GMT
Bringing this up-ish because I'm really interested in what musicals kept everyone entertained this quarantine! I know for one that an unhealthy diet of Phantom, LND (just the soundtrack because the plot...), Follies, Sweeney Todd, Camelot, Dear World (current favourite!), Hamilton, Chicago, Mamma Mia!, Cinderella (R&H: the '50s, '90s, and Broadway version), Six, Mame—I could go on but I think you guys get the point—got me through all these months of lockdown!
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Post by laurynvi on Dec 22, 2020 2:50:52 GMT
Bringing this up-ish because I'm really interested in what musicals kept everyone entertained this quarantine! I know for one that an unhealthy diet of Phantom, LND (just the soundtrack because the plot...), Follies, Sweeney Todd, Camelot, Dear World (current favourite!), Hamilton, Chicago, Mamma Mia!, Cinderella (R&H: the '50s, '90s, and Broadway version), Six, Mame—I could go on but I think you guys get the point—got me through all these months of lockdown! SO MUCH Phantom! Hamilton was a new one for me this lockdown. Mamma Mia and Wicked are also favourites. I also had a good solid dose of every Disney movie musical known to man thanks to the kids. 😁
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 8, 2021 18:13:40 GMT
I noticed something recently that I hadn't really thought of before. In TSOM, all of the songs, with the exception of Problem Like Maria, the person/people singing them are being the taught the song, or have a reason to know it. There are no numbers where someone starts singing and then everyone in the town square suddenly knows the same song and dance, which is very common in other musicals. Though, admittedly, I have not seen that many.
Have you noticed this too?
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 8, 2021 20:08:21 GMT
On another note, has anyone ever been in love with a musical soundtrack without seeing the movie, and then watched the movie and didn't like it at all? That just happened to me - I won't name names on the musical in case it is someone's favorite, but it was such an odd feeling. Having these songs that I have known for years and listen to often, that I always assumed went along with this awesome show, and then once I got around to watching, it wasn't at all what I expected. I hope it doesn't ruin the songs. I don't think it will.
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Post by juliemadlydeeply on Apr 8, 2021 23:01:41 GMT
I noticed something recently that I hadn't really thought of before. In TSOM, all of the songs, with the exception of Problem Like Maria, the person/people singing them are being the taught the song, or have a reason to know it. There are no numbers where someone starts singing and then everyone in the town square suddenly knows the same song and dance, which is very common in other musicals. Though, admittedly, I have not seen that many. Have you noticed this too? Oh man, this thread has really brought out the musical theatre nerd in me! I could go on forever about the way Rodgers and Hammerstein revolutionized musical theatre, but it really doesn't apply here! I would argue that the lack of chorus numbers is really specific to The Sound of Music. R&H had some large numbers in their other shows; but The Sound of Music has a relatively small cast. In the stage show, the only opportunity for a large number is at the party, and I think having a huge chorus number there would detract from the Laendler! The rest of the show is entirely the family, the nuns, the Baroness, Max, Frau Schmidt, Franz, Rolf, and Herr Zeller. On screen, we see a lot more people (like when Maria takes the children to the market, at the festival, and at the wedding), so it does feel like there are ample opportunities for larger numbers. But the stage show is super small! I think it just has to do with the way it was written and adapted, more than anything else.
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Post by jennifer1983 on Apr 9, 2021 4:57:42 GMT
I also like Annie and Mary Poppins. The Sound of Music is still my all time favorite.
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Post by itsdayandnight on Apr 9, 2021 7:57:30 GMT
On another note, has anyone ever been in love with a musical soundtrack without seeing the movie, and then watched the movie and didn't like it at all? That just happened to me - I won't name names on the musical in case it is someone's favorite, but it was such an odd feeling. Having these songs that I have known for years and listen to often, that I always assumed went along with this awesome show, and then once I got around to watching, it wasn't at all what I expected. I hope it doesn't ruin the songs. I don't think it will. Ohhhh yes, I've felt this way! And there's also the unfortunate cases of the musical having a possibly-captivating plot, but the music doesn't seem to match up quite as well. I've always found it kind of funny and sad how the music (and lyrics) of a soundtrack is deeply connected to the plot, but sometimes, one doesn't end up being as awesome as the other :') But you're right! I think more often than not, most people turn a blind eye to the *context* in the musical/film and listen to the music without it being tarnished
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Post by juliemadlydeeply on Apr 9, 2021 20:01:35 GMT
On another note, has anyone ever been in love with a musical soundtrack without seeing the movie, and then watched the movie and didn't like it at all? That just happened to me - I won't name names on the musical in case it is someone's favorite, but it was such an odd feeling. Having these songs that I have known for years and listen to often, that I always assumed went along with this awesome show, and then once I got around to watching, it wasn't at all what I expected. I hope it doesn't ruin the songs. I don't think it will. Ohhhh yes, I've felt this way! And there's also the unfortunate cases of the musical having a possibly-captivating plot, but the music doesn't seem to match up quite as well. I've always found it kind of funny and sad how the music (and lyrics) of a soundtrack is deeply connected to the plot, but sometimes, one doesn't end up being as awesome as the other :') But you're right! I think more often than not, most people turn a blind eye to the *context* in the musical/film and listen to the music without it being tarnished The musical Chess is famous for having incredible music and a lackluster story. One critic's review went as far as to say: "A musical is only as good as its book, and here one is confronted by an inchoate mess." They revamped the show to move it from the West End to New York and hoped for more success, but got about the same reviews: "the evening has the theatrical consistency of quicksand". It's a shame that the show never saw success due to its flaws; the music is deserving of so much more recognition! Chess certainly isn't alone in this category, but it is my favorite of the shows that didn't see commercial success despite their great scores. I still enjoy the music from this show just as much as everyone else; I don't think a subpar story should have the power to ruin good songs for the audience!
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 9, 2021 22:21:08 GMT
I noticed something recently that I hadn't really thought of before. In TSOM, all of the songs, with the exception of Problem Like Maria, the person/people singing them are being the taught the song, or have a reason to know it. There are no numbers where someone starts singing and then everyone in the town square suddenly knows the same song and dance, which is very common in other musicals. Though, admittedly, I have not seen that many. Have you noticed this too? Oh man, this thread has really brought out the musical theatre nerd in me! I could go on forever about the way Rodgers and Hammerstein revolutionized musical theatre, but it really doesn't apply here! I would argue that the lack of chorus numbers is really specific to The Sound of Music. R&H had some large numbers in their other shows; but The Sound of Music has a relatively small cast. In the stage show, the only opportunity for a large number is at the party, and I think having a huge chorus number there would detract from the Laendler! The rest of the show is entirely the family, the nuns, the Baroness, Max, Frau Schmidt, Franz, Rolf, and Herr Zeller. On screen, we see a lot more people (like when Maria takes the children to the market, at the festival, and at the wedding), so it does feel like there are ample opportunities for larger numbers. But the stage show is super small! I think it just has to do with the way it was written and adapted, more than anything else. Bring on your Rodgers and Hammerstein insights. I know very little about the history of musical theater, and would like to hear your thoughts on their influence.
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 9, 2021 23:31:43 GMT
Yes, do!
One reason I suspect for TSOM having a very small cast was because 20th Century Fox was in some financial difficulties before it was chosen as a 'last gasp ' production to haul it out of debt. Happily it succeeded...and goes on...and on...
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Post by Silver-White-Winters on Apr 10, 2021 20:00:51 GMT
Mamma Mia is my 2nd favorite movie/musical. It's what originally got me into fanfiction ❤
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 18, 2021 20:52:10 GMT
Two thoughts on both the ideas circulating here thanks to reverendcaptain: I'm glad juliemadlydeeply mentioned Chess, because I was unbearably curious when reverendcaptain was too polite to name names of musicals where the story disappointed.. I'd love to hear other examples! Isn't there also a distinction in musical theatre between numbers that are actually musical numbers (Lonely Goatherd, Edelweiss, So Long Farewell) vs. those that are expressing the plot but we don't actually think people performed them (Something Good, Climb Every Mountain, Confidence). TSOM seems to have more of the former but I guess that's because it's about, um, music . I just checked Wikipedia and I think this is related to the difference between diegetic and incidental music. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diegetic_music
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