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Post by lemacd on Aug 11, 2013 19:19:00 GMT
this morning i watched 'spencer's mountain' which was based on the book that was eventually gave us 'the walton's'... so yeah. so anyway, watching it i saw a familiar face. uncredited kym karath as 'pattycake'. too cute. and just to throw more trivia out there, 'becky' was an uncredited veronica cartwright. totally should start a 'six degrees of TSOM'... i'd rock it. so i went looking for images for this movie and found these... i think 'spencer's mountain' and 'the sound of music' hired the same publicity photographer. just line the kids up and put a mountain in the background. or put them in pajamas.  Attachment Deleted |
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Post by lemacd on Aug 11, 2013 19:20:12 GMT
it was her... doesn't look like her in the photos but it was her. she had lines and everything.
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Post by thebeestings on May 2, 2015 2:48:11 GMT
Kiss me awake Clayboy! This is one of my mothers favorite movies but that line is all I really remember from it  It does look like they hired the same publicity team, lol. |
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Post by utility_singer on May 3, 2015 0:34:30 GMT
LOL those photos are funny. And I do recall Kym having done a movie with Henry Fonda when she was 3 years old, so I guess that's the one?
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Post by lemacd on May 3, 2015 3:37:34 GMT
i would say it is. she was adorable in it. which, i guess, didn't really need to be pointed out.
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Post by augiesannie on May 4, 2015 0:43:35 GMT
Wow. Three years old.
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Post by utility_singer on May 4, 2015 1:08:19 GMT
I loved finally noticing the reason for her scowling at Georg when he has to introduce her to Maria in the hall---she was returning the sour look he gave her! lol I don't know how I never caught it.
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Post by augiesannie on May 10, 2015 22:00:53 GMT
I loved finally noticing the reason for her scowling at Georg when he has to introduce her to Maria in the hall---she was returning the sour look he gave her! lol I don't know how I never caught it. I love the way he says, "er, Gretl." It's a little rueful and wry. Already his human side is peeking through. |
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Post by utility_singer on May 11, 2015 0:44:29 GMT
I loved finally noticing the reason for her scowling at Georg when he has to introduce her to Maria in the hall---she was returning the sour look he gave her! lol I don't know how I never caught it. I love the way he says, "er, Gretl." It's a little rueful and wry. Already his human side is peeking through. Much the way he says, "What is the matter, Marta?" in that lovely, exasperated way at the dinner table. |
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Post by augiesannie on May 11, 2015 0:56:26 GMT
Yes! Like we see that he DOES have SOME relationship with them.
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Post by utility_singer on May 11, 2015 1:06:47 GMT
Yes! I've always thought that the way they chatter over one another at the dinner table, and bicker back and forth, show us that he hasn't frozen them out completely. Quite the opposite, considering that at that time, children were generally seen and not heard, if indeed they ate with the adult/s in the family at all. A little glimpse into the previously happy family life when Agathe was alive, perhaps?
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Post by clarinetjamie on May 11, 2015 5:00:26 GMT
He loves them still, he just doesn't know how to get over the bitterness of losing his wife and they are a painful reminder of the life they once shared. He's torn between wanting to see them, but also keeping them at a distance because he's hurting and hasn't come to terms with it. He looks at him at them and he sees her and it hurts. I think he's proud of them though and I think we know this by the way he talks about them to Maria during their argument and by how he's appalled at the idea of his children traipsing about Salzburg in front of other people dressed in old drapes and in the stage production he actually says that his children have always been a credit to his name. He's just trying to forget her and in so doing pushes them out.
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Post by augiesannie on May 11, 2015 10:40:55 GMT
so true about the dinner scene. another masterful set piece by the TSOM team. I am even thinking about how he reads the telegram and tells them that in the morning, he will going to Vienna. he says it a little slowly, reluctantly, like he knows they won't like it. I'm also tempted to wonder if HE doesn't like it, except that the telegram is about Elsa coming to visit. Does he have reservations about that too? hmmmmm...... Although he does give them that imperious "how dare you" look when they object.
I like the idea that he wants to be with them but then they remind him of her so he pushes them away. In my last story I wrote that he wanted to die and he resented them because he had to stay alive for them. That may have been a bit over the top angsty but then again, I am always over the top angsty!
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Post by utility_singer on May 11, 2015 11:18:51 GMT
Not over-the-top, Anne. Perfectly described his feelings, I think, at least the way CP plays him.
I agree that perhaps he has reservations about bringing Elsa back, and he deflects any more questions about her by telling them they'll get to see Uncle Max. That, alongside their discussion beside the lake, makes it pretty clear that while he's planning to ask her to marry, he's definitely got mixed feelings. Mild flirting moves quickly to distinct discomfort when Elsa starts hinting around about what she wants from him.
I always see that "how dare you look" as a twist on "because I said so".
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Post by thebeestings on May 11, 2015 13:57:07 GMT
Yes! Like we see that he DOES have SOME relationship with them. Agreed! I think the reason he is so easily accepted back into their lives is because some relationship still existed. There was hurt but the damage wasn't permanent. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on May 11, 2015 15:11:17 GMT
Yes! Like we see that he DOES have SOME relationship with them. Agreed! I think the reason he is so easily accepted back into their lives is because some relationship still existed. Their was hurt but the damage wasn't permanent. Yes, and kids are very resilient and much quicker to forgive than adults are. He's still their dad and all they have ever wanted was for him to pay attention to them and love them, hence why they played all those tricks. It was the only way they could get him to pay attention. The older ones remember what he was like before their mother died and they miss that about him. The little ones don't have a clue except for maybe the stories that the older ones have told them, but they have probably seen there friends at school with their parents and know that their situation is not normal behavior from a father. Despite keeping his distance from them, they still love him and they just want to be recognized and noticed by him. When he makes that turn it's easy for them to forgive and feel loved by him again because that's been their goal all along. |
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