vittoriavontrapp
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There's nothing more irresistible to a man than a woman who's in love with him
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Post by vittoriavontrapp on Apr 22, 2017 14:58:13 GMT
I know, I know. George is brave, handsome, idealist, rich. But she was going to be a nun. A girl who didn't care about wearing an dress that poor didn't want. I understand George: Maria is a young woman, full of life, stubborn as much as he is, fresh, talented; she is cathartic in some ways. It's impossible not loving her. But Maria? Does she fall in love with the first handsome man she finds out of the Abbey? Being understood that this wink would make every woman heart melt.
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Post by blairp on Apr 22, 2017 21:01:40 GMT
I think she fell in love with the children first. And after he reconciled with them, her attraction began to him as a loving and indulgent father. He also appreciates the things about her that everyone in her Nonnberg life criticizes. Also, he's smokin'!
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 22, 2017 23:28:41 GMT
Yes - as a comedian recently asked her guest on a chat show, "What attracted you to this handsome millionaire ?!"
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 24, 2017 0:14:06 GMT
Sometimes there isn't a rational explanation. The chemistry is just there.
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 24, 2017 21:51:01 GMT
I was reading about someone the other day who was standing on the side of a pool, and saw someone swimming in it, and immediately knew that they would be partners for life (which they were!) How can you account for that?
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Post by lemacd on Apr 25, 2017 23:01:33 GMT
I don't think it was a matter of the first guy that she met outside of the abbey... I think he fascinated her at first(he wasn't at all what she was expecting). They had a mutual love for the children in common so that was where they connected. Then he gave her approval in ways that I think she probably never really had from many people. And then finally, he looked at her in a way that made it hard to breathe. So it wasn't a case of the first handsome man she saw, but the handsome man that saw her and looked at her and made her feel so many things.
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Post by vittoriavontrapp on Apr 28, 2017 20:13:14 GMT
I was reading about someone the other day who was standing on the side of a pool, and saw someone swimming in it, and immediately knew that they would be partners for life (which they were!) How can you account for that? I do believe in love at first sight. I met my first love and I knew in the moment he said my name that I would have followed him everywhere. So do you think it was love at first sight for Maria?
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 28, 2017 22:32:34 GMT
I think sometimes these things start off as a fascination with someone rather than instant love, and my feeling is that, from the moment Georg emerged from the shadows in the ballroon, Maria just found him intriguing, and then found herself unexpectedly deeply in love.
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Post by lemacd on Apr 29, 2017 5:12:09 GMT
I agree with @indigoblue. Maria was still very much eager to be a nun. If it was love at first sight, her enthusiasm at hearing that the Captain would be proposing to the Baroness by the end of the summer wouldn't make sense. Still, I know that is what some people think and that's cool.
I like the idea that it hit them both out of nowhere, in that moment during the Laendler. I mean, it was building up before then I'm sure, but it was too strong to suppress anymore when they were dancing and then it was so intense neither could understand it. slurpy.
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 30, 2017 13:55:56 GMT
lemacd, the Sicilians have a phrase for that, 'un colpo di fulmine'. The literal translation is 'a hit of lightning', figuratively it is used to mean lovestruck.
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Post by lemacd on May 1, 2017 3:37:06 GMT
lemacd , the Sicilians have a phrase for that, 'un colpo di fulmine'. The literal translation is 'a hit of lightning', figuratively it is used to mean lovestruck. wow. thanks for sharing that, I think I should tuck it away for future fic use (not calling dibs... just saying it could happen someday).
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Post by vittoriavontrapp on May 25, 2017 17:49:07 GMT
lemacd, the Sicilians have a phrase for that, 'un colpo di fulmine'. The literal translation is 'a hit of lightning', figuratively it is used to mean lovestruck. It isn't only a Sicilian phrase but Italian in general. I really love it.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 28, 2017 18:31:23 GMT
I wonder if I use that phrase on my husband what he would say. He would probably ask me where I learned it, lol. Not sure I want to explain that one to him. I think she falls in love with him because of how endearing he is with his children after he changes. I mean who wouldn't fall in love with a well bred man who is handsome, musical, and knows all the right manurism and dressed smartly.
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Post by lemacd on Jun 28, 2017 23:22:52 GMT
That's interesting, @clarinetjamie. But would handsome, musical, well-dressed and... suave? convince her that it is true love and not just being swept up? I agree that he is all those things, but it seems to me that she would try to convince herself it is the first time she's met someone like that and that her reaction would wear off eventually. I mean, she might even confuse her so that that she decides she needs to get away from it as it is clearly distracting her from... oh wait.
I think the children did have something to do with it, though, like you said. It's creepy to suggest that a father-figure would turn her heart but she never knew that kind of love first hand it would certainly open her heart up.
This is an interesting question. I'm not entirely sure I could explain why I fell in love with my husband. I mean, I could try, I suppose...
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 29, 2017 5:37:14 GMT
That's interesting. I'm not sure I could tell you why I fell for my husband either. He had to work pretty hard to catch me. I was not instantly interested in him. It took some time for me to warm up to him.
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Post by absurdlittlebird on Sept 5, 2017 11:25:52 GMT
I think she fell in love because she was never really fit for the abbey to begin with. Her character was much too spirited, too bursting with life. I'm not entirely sure about what was common for nuns in those days but I feel early 20s would have been an uncommonly young age to decide to dedicate your life to God by becoming a cloistered nun. I think she found a true purpose in her role in the house. As blairp said, Georg loved and appreciated a lot of the qualities she possessed that had no place in the abbey. She was outspoken and unafraid to speak up for what she believed in. Her role in the abbey, as a postulant particularly, gave her little to no real avenue for that trait to work itself out. Whereas in the von Trapp home, I think her strength of character really helped to break Georg out of the daze he'd been in since Agathe had died. It was the first time someone cared enough about his children that they had been willing to push past feeling afraid of and intimidated by him in order to completely ream him out for being so utterly selfish and unfair in his grief. That was definitely a huge part of the attraction from Georg's side of things and I think once Maria realised that he actually respected her for that quality it started to stir a lot of feelings in her. All her previously "problematic" traits served her so well in that house. They needed someone strong and full of life; I think Georg was the first adult that had ever made her feel valued and appreciated for who she uniquely was- that was what helped her most significantly to fall in love. Obviously there was also just the pure chemistry, his attractiveness, seeing his softer side evolve etc. with the children. But I think her finding her place and freedom to truly be herself in that house was the most pivotal point. I think this is all evident in how much she anguished after being told by Elsa that she was "in love". She needed to have that journey, the conversation with the Mother Abbess in order to realise that she fit much better in the role of a wife and mother than she ever did at the abbey. And once she came to that realisation it sort of allowed her to be in love, explore and deepen those feelings.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 2, 2023 21:53:21 GMT
This is an interesting question. Yes, he's handsome and rich, but are these important qualities to a (almost) nun? Even if, deep down, she doesn't think she is suited for the abbey, going from a poor farm girl postulant to being a baroness with a husband, 7 children, and a villa to run seems overwhelming to say the least! Looks are wonderful, but they aren't enough to change your life over. And wealth can easily go away (and it does). Her life is poised to change much more dramatically than his if they were to be together.
Maybe it is easier than I think it is though. She loves the kids and so would happily take on the role of being their mother. She's in love with Georg. He treats her with kindness and respect, and he's gorgeous. Who cares about what high society thinks when you have all of that going for you? Still, she had to be really sure that she was prepared for what all she was signing up for.
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Post by Chris&Byng on Apr 25, 2023 23:41:55 GMT
I like to think of it along the lines that Maria fell in love with Georg while she was feeling 'protected' by the the naive idea that Georg was an unattainable man (after all, Frau Schmidt said he was going to marrying/ or at least proposing to Elsa before the summer was over). I think she was always fascinated by him - when "he blew that silly whistle" she found him puzzling, even comical - as Elsa would say, a 'riddle'. I imagine Georg to be a bit of a flirt and Maria is probably thinking what's the harm, it's not like he is ever going to want me! At the same time, she began to fall in love with the family man she saw with the children...and moments they shared brought them closer together. All the while, Maria is quite sure this is just platonic, because really, what is a man 20 years her senior (who is smokin' hot, rich, a naval hero, has a glamorous baroness) going to want with a wannabe nun on leave from the convent?
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