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Post by lemacd on Jan 23, 2018 5:48:51 GMT
Let's discuss these two... I think there is a lot to say about them. I'm always drawn to the fact that they do not harbor the same feelings toward Maria that they older ones do in this scene. So discuss... say anything.
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Post by indigoblue on Jan 24, 2018 0:07:21 GMT
Cute!
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jan 24, 2018 3:24:35 GMT
I think they don't harbour the same feelings as their siblings because they are the little ones. The others probably have some memories of Agathe (though I know many stories explore whether Brigitta actually does) but Marta and Gretl likely have none. They only know governesses, and Maria's probably the first one who's been friendly to them - at least to this degree. So it's new and exciting for them in a way it isn't for the others.
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Post by lemacd on Jan 24, 2018 4:29:48 GMT
yes, in my imagination the other governesses were probably older and intimidating and probably scary from their perspective. Maria is young and friendly and says all the right things that enchant little girls...
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Post by indigoblue on Jan 24, 2018 23:35:08 GMT
Georg must have been a pretty intimidating father to have, so with a rapid turnover of governesses, they would have been desperate for someone to have some fun with - Max has obviously filled the bill in the past to some extent!
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Post by augiesannie on Jan 28, 2018 0:48:54 GMT
yes, they really do adore her from the start! although by the end of the evening they are all eating out of her hand. agree that they have no resentment or frame of reference, I wonder if they even miss their father as much as the older ones although there is a wistfulness to how gretl says, "how long will you be gone this time father?"
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jun 4, 2021 0:14:38 GMT
What do you think birthday parties are like at the villa? Do they even happen? I'm wondering if Marta ever got her pink parasol. She knows enough to have a gift idea ready.
Marta and Gretl are so little! They would need so much time to play and be silly. Their current setup had to be suffocating.
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Post by Chris&Byng on Jun 5, 2021 23:23:23 GMT
I love the scene when Georg introduces all the children using his whistle and Gretl is pretty saucy without saying anything. The little sideways glares they give each other when she doesn't respond to her whistle is divine! They have the practically the same look and it's so cute. She has a completely different relationship (or VIEW of her relationship) with her father vs. her siblings.
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Post by indigoblue on Jun 6, 2021 22:20:28 GMT
Gretl may be the only one who can't remember her mother. Obviously it depends on how long ago Agathe died, but I'm always surprised how little smallies can remember, even more than a year ago. It is possible, of course, that Agathe died giving birth to Gretl, or soon after, in which case she really won't have any recollection of her mother at all.
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Post by utility_singer on Jun 28, 2021 10:46:36 GMT
In real life, I believe she was about a year old when Agathe died (if memory serves). So, no recollection other than what her siblings would have told her. Beyond that----little children are incredibly intuitive and incredibly forgiving. Marta and Gretl likely still see each new governess with optimism, and Maria has that in abundance. They can sense her warmth, her kindness, and that her interest in them isn't phony.
I often (to the horror of some) compare children and dogs. If your dog doesn't like someone, that person is probably not to be trusted. Same with kids. As we grow older, we tend not to trust our gut feelings or instincts as much.
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Post by indigoblue on Jun 28, 2021 16:00:33 GMT
Very true. In fact, as I have got older I have retaught myself to trust my instincts, as they rarely let me down!
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