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Post by reverendcaptain on Dec 16, 2019 15:22:54 GMT
I’m sure this must have been discussed somewhere, but I can’t seem to find anything on it.
What did Maria’s note say that she left on the table during the party? She was probably trying to get out of the house as quickly as possible, and she couldn’t go into any detail as to why she was actually leaving, so I doubt it was very long. We do know from what the captain tells the children that she missed her life at the abbey was included. Was it just…Dear Captain and Children, Thank you for allowing me to serve as your governess. However, I miss my life at the abbey too much and much return. Respectfully, Maria….? Thoughts?
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Post by indigoblue on Feb 1, 2020 23:13:17 GMT
I think it must have been pretty brief, as Maria didn't want to wait long enough for the Captain to come and find her. Also,I think she was in such a turmoil that she wouldn't know what to say, and in making it brief, almost terse, it would have put him off coming to see her.
It would still have been fascinating to know, though...and yes, it has been discussed somewere, but it's now buried in the depths of this board. Will post a link if I find it.
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Post by emilia78 on Apr 20, 2020 15:54:41 GMT
I will improvise....
Captain, Thank you for allowing me to serve as the governess of your children. BUT I do not feel well, I miss greatly my life at the abbey, that is why am going back to fulfill my calling.
Goodbye!
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Post by Silver-White-Winters on Apr 20, 2020 21:01:20 GMT
I will improvise.... Captain, Thank you for allowing me to serve as the governess of your children. BUT I do not feel well, I miss greatly my life at the abbey, that is why am going back to fulfill my calling. Goodbye! That definitely seems like something she'd write.
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 20, 2020 23:50:01 GMT
That would certainly give him something to be hesitant about when she turned up at the villa again...he must have been SO confused!
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 9, 2020 23:15:34 GMT
I have been thinking about this, and it dawned on me that we always seem to assume that Maria left the villa in a mood of fright/disappointment and shame. But maybe it wasn't so? Maybe she left in a fit of pique and annoyance that the Baroness had walked in to her room unannounced just when she was changing and looking forward to dinner with the Captain? If so, then maybe the note went as follows:
Dear Captain,
That woman Elsa is impossible! Walking into my room when I am in my undies - I won't hear another word from her, because it has got me thinking about other things. Fond as I am of you, I really don't think you are the right family for me. You're much too noisy and independent and I need someone who needs me desperately (like the nuns - Lord knows they are getting so old). At least they don't need my money desperately - just as well, because I haven't got any! I have enjoyed every moment we've had together, I do thank you for that. Now, if you'll forgive me, I've packed my little bag and will return to the Abbey where I belong. Good luck with the Baroness, and if it doesn't work out, she could always try being a nun. Auf Wiedersehen, Captain. Love, Maria x
One can see the Captain's eyes widen in surprise, then his face relaxing into a smile as the Baroness creeps up behind him, touching his hand and kissing him on the cheek. He puts the note in his pocket, and turns back to the party with his partner and tries his best to forget it. But all week Maria's words burn in his mind. It's when he hears almost the exact same words once again a week later on the balcony, this time coming from Elsa, that he begins to think it's a really bad record - twice in a week for a handsome chap like him! He must up his game.
So with her final 'Auf Wiedersehen, Darling', his eyes slide over to the gazebo, and he trundles off there in pursuit of the final part of Maria's note....the x.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:33:09 GMT
I have been thinking about this, and it dawned on me that we always seem to assume that Maria left the villa in a mood of fright/disappointment and shame. But maybe it wasn't so? Maybe she left in a fit of pique and annoyance that the Baroness had walked in to her room unannounced just when she was changing and looking forward to dinner with the Captain? If so, then maybe the note went as follows: Dear Captain, That woman Elsa is impossible! Walking into my room when I am in my undies - I won't hear another word, because it has got me thinking about other things. Fond as I am of you, I really don't think you are the right family for me. You're much too noisy and independent and I need someone who needs me desperately (like the nuns - Lord knows they are getting so old). At least they don't need my money desperately - just as well, because I haven't got any! I have enjoyed every moment we've had together, I do thank you for that. Now, if you'll forgive me, I've packed my little bag and will return to the Abbey where I belong. Good luck with the Baroness, and if it doesn't work out, she could always try being a nun. Auf Wiedersehen, Captain. Love, Maria x One can see the Captain's eyes widen in surprise, then his face relaxing into a smile as the Baroness creeps up behind him, touching his hand and kissing him on the cheek. He puts the note in his pocket, and turns back to the party with his partner and tries his best to forget it. But all week Maria's words burn in his mind. It's when he hears almost the exact same words once again a week later on the balcony, this time coming from Elsa, that he begins to think it's a really bad record - twice in a week for a handsome chap like him! He must up his game. So with her final 'Auf Wiedersehen, Darling', his eyes slide over to the gazebo, and he trundles off there in pursuit of the final part of Maria's note....the x. This is hilarious! You should make a fic out of it!
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Post by reverendcaptain on Oct 5, 2020 19:41:25 GMT
Well, this isn't about the note, but more about her exit right after she puts the note down.
I love that last thing Maria does before she walks out the door is to glance up at the door to the children's room. I wonder if she's thinking about how much she'll miss them, or about how this decision for her to leave is best for them, or both maybe. It's kind of heartbreaking though.
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 5, 2020 23:25:47 GMT
Golly, I hadn't twigged that she looked up in the kids' direction! Well spotted...
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Post by ANeedlePullingThread on Oct 9, 2020 23:05:11 GMT
Golly, I hadn't twigged that she looked up in the kids' direction! Well spotted... Maria’s/JA’s looks are so wonderful in the movie. She does a similar thing when she is wandering by the lake as Georg watches her. She stops at the top stair where he stood when she came home, and where He and Elsa stand when she says she will only stay until a new governess can be found. I only noticed it recently but it’s if she can clearly see Him, and when she leaves for the abbey she can see the children in her stare.
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Post by augiesannie on Nov 4, 2020 2:38:34 GMT
Golly, I hadn't twigged that she looked up in the kids' direction! Well spotted... Maria’s/JA’s looks are so wonderful in the movie. She does a similar thing when she is wandering by the lake as Georg watches her. She stops at the top stair where he stood when she came home, and where He and Elsa stand when she says she will only stay until a new governess can be found. I only noticed it recently but it’s if she can clearly see Him, and when she leaves for the abbey she can see the children in her stare. Wow, I have been doing a bit of writing about this moment, may I borrow that observation ANeedlePullingThread?
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Post by ANeedlePullingThread on Nov 4, 2020 2:42:27 GMT
Maria’s/JA’s looks are so wonderful in the movie. She does a similar thing when she is wandering by the lake as Georg watches her. She stops at the top stair where he stood when she came home, and where He and Elsa stand when she says she will only stay until a new governess can be found. I only noticed it recently but it’s if she can clearly see Him, and when she leaves for the abbey she can see the children in her stare. Wow, I have been doing a bit of writing about this moment, may I borrow that observation ANeedlePullingThread? Absolutely!!!!!!!
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Post by reverendcaptain on Aug 2, 2023 17:30:38 GMT
I had the (mad) thought today that maybe the note didn't mention the abbey at all. If Maria was hurt and confused by being told that the captain was just toying with her, and being the outspoken person she is, maybe she told him that? It's unlikely, and maybe more of a fanfic idea than a truly possible scenario, but maybe? Then when the captain was asked what was in her note he just came up with a plausible lie about missing the abbey to try to appease the children.
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 3, 2023 22:25:52 GMT
Yes, I suppose if she wrote that he was a cheating toad, then he had to think up something pretty quick!
It just occurred to me that, during their romance, he doesn't actually say anything about it (that we hear) - it is all just actions like mirroring body language, dancing the Laendler, long soulful stares down the hall. So she can't really accuse him of anything wrong (like lying), because it was effectively all done in silence.
Maybe that is why their romance is so dreamy, because it just seems to happen entirely naturally and spontaneously.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 8, 2023 20:27:52 GMT
I had the (mad) thought today that maybe the note didn't mention the abbey at all. If Maria was hurt and confused by being told that the captain was just toying with her, and being the outspoken person she is, maybe she told him that? It's unlikely, and maybe more of a fanfic idea than a truly possible scenario, but maybe? Then when the captain was asked what was in her note he just came up with a plausible lie about missing the abbey to try to appease the children. Yeah, the way he tells the children about the note, it does sound like he's making it up. OTOH I agree that it seems unlikely that she would really say what she's thinking. Mostly I like the "thank you for the opportunity" message, with no explanation. Which would drive him crazy.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Aug 15, 2023 21:16:27 GMT
Do you think this note gave him any real information at all? or was it just a formality?
I agree, she probably did not mention anything about heartbreak, because she didn't even know if he really felt that way about her. Though, she had to know he would wonder what happened to make her leave in the middle of the party without saying goodbye to the children. Did she say that she was confused? Or that she was afraid that she was hurting the family in the long run? Or was it in her best interest to just say she missed the abbey and leave it at that?
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Post by reverendcaptain on Aug 18, 2023 21:10:19 GMT
Do you think he got the note during the party, after the party, the next morning before anyone realized she was gone, or the next morning after the children were in a panic over her being gone?
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 20, 2023 21:39:24 GMT
What if he and Elsa said goodbye to their last guests, and as the butler finally shut the front door, Elsa spotted the envelope propped upon the table?
Georg would have had to open it in front of Elsa and explain it without showing any emotion...
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Post by reverendcaptain on Aug 22, 2023 18:45:22 GMT
Ooh, that brings up another good question. Who actually found the note?
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 29, 2023 22:46:04 GMT
Lots of possibilities, but one reason I like the idea of Georg finding it, is that whatever it said and however he responded, he can be in total control of the narrative about what it said and how he responds. The very final, flat way he says, "she did in her note" and then the casual, almost lighthearted way he elaborates on it, could simply all be his inventions.
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 1, 2023 23:04:15 GMT
I suppose one other thing she could have said is "Elsa's been so beastly to me I have to go back to the Abbey".
That would leave Georg with two dilemmas (?dilemmae) which surely would have vexed him, explaining his troubled demeanour:
1. Do I go and search out Maria at the Abbey, and 2. Is Elsa so beastly that I'd better not marry her?
My instinct is that Elsa proposed to him (in a subtle way), hence his furrowed brow when he emerged from the house onto the terrace, as these thoughts were still running through his mind.
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 6, 2023 15:46:06 GMT
I suppose one other thing she could have said is "Elsa's been so beastly to me I have to go back to the Abbey". That would leave Georg with two dilemmas (?dilemmae) which surely would have vexed him, explaining his troubled demeanour: 1. Do I go and search out Maria at the Abbey, and 2. Is Elsa so beastly that I'd better not marry her? My instinct is that Elsa proposed to him (in a subtle way), hence his furrowed brow when he emerged from the house onto the terrace, as these thoughts were still running through his mind. I never considered the possibility that Elsa did the proposing. It really makes so much sense. You really have to twist yourself in knots to construct a credible G proposal. This would be a great contest - in 100 words or less, compose the proposal of marriage between E&G.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jan 4, 2024 23:08:49 GMT
There is a story called What You See on ff.net by IDontKnowYourSignal. Chapter 3 has a good Elsa proposal in it, where she basically tells Georg that he has no idea what to do to help his girls socially and needs her to manage it for him. I could see it happening like that.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 13, 2024 21:41:41 GMT
When Maria didn’t show up for dinner, would someone be sent to check on her? It is possible that whoever this was (Frau Schmidt?) told Georg that Maria was gone before the note was even discovered. Then he would have to hear the news in front of everyone and decide if he was dashing out of the room to look for her/look for a note/confirm that this info was true, or just sit and pretend everything was fine. I’m assuming FS because it would probably be most appropriate to send a lady rather than a man up to the governess’s bedroom, and Georg would probably want to send someone who would be discreet if Maria was freaking out or something rather than just some random maid. Though, if it were FS, she would probably look for a note if the room was empty. She would also, hopefully, ask to speak to Georg in private instead of laying the news on him as he sat down for dinner with everyone.
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Post by augiesannie on Mar 14, 2024 23:54:26 GMT
Interesting that Maria didn’t leave the note in her bedroom, but on the table where different people might find it. I don’t think Frau Schmidt would have told him in front of everyone but I definitely think you’re right that he’d be in turmoil throughout dinner. And I don’t think he bought that part about “missing her life at the Abbey” for a minute.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 18, 2024 19:01:09 GMT
Interesting that Maria didn’t leave the note in her bedroom, but on the table where different people might find it. I don’t think Frau Schmidt would have told him in front of everyone but I definitely think you’re right that he’d be in turmoil throughout dinner. And I don’t think he bought that part about “missing her life at the Abbey” for a minute. Why didn't she leave her note in her bedroom? Good question! It would seem more logical to leave it there. Leaving it in plain sight, was she hoping someone would find it right away and the captain would dash off into the night after her, and then they could talk privately about where they stood with each other (which happens often in my daydream fanfic scenarios)?
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 29, 2024 23:55:31 GMT
If she had left the note in her room rather than the hall, then when she didn't appear at dinner, people would have assumed she had perhaps gone to bed; if they had decided to leave her undisturbed, it may have been midmorning the next day before anyone (?FS) knocked on her door to see if she was ok (when in fact she was back at the abbey). Leaving the note in the hall was the quickest way of letting Georg/someone else know. I suppose she could have been honest (as is her character) and written in it that she had found their relationship too overwhelming...this would have put Georg into turmoil (especially if he had been in denial before) - and it would have explained his look of desolation when he came out on the terrace at the beginning of the pink lemonade scene. pink lemonade.webp (93.5 KB)
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