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Post by lemacd on Jan 16, 2022 19:20:51 GMT
    Welcome back to our cap discussion... it's been a while, hope everyone had a great holiday season. We are at the point of the film where Maria and the children are fleetly flying around Salzburg on their way to the final destination. Missing scene is at the market with that silly attempt at juggling and the poor attempt at catching... you know what I'm talking about. I picked these because Omgosh poor little Gretl can't seem to keep up. Maria has a lot of things she wants to point out but not a spare moment for the children to look at it before she's off again. Finally big sister Liesl takes pity and makes sure the little ones don't get left behind. I direct your attention to the second cap for the discussion topic: what do you think the bystanders are all thinking as they watch this matchy matchy clothed bunch go by? You have the people at the bus stop... and what looks to me like an adult with a couple children in two walking in the opposite direction. Seriously curious what they would be thinking. Perhaps the Captain wasn't completely wrong to worry about what people might think. |
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Post by missisa on Jan 16, 2022 22:19:35 GMT
Thank you lemacd I love these discussions! I can think of two things: 1) bystanders recognize the von Trapp's children, in which case they would be stunned first and moved later, glad that these children are finally having joyful activities. 2) nobody recognizes them, in this case I am inclined to think that most of them smile when they see a group of children having a good family time and enjoying good weather and music (we are in a musical city!). When I was a little girl this was the funniest and happiest moment, the children finally happy, the music is already capturing us, we are on the way to Do Re Mi. I couldn't stand a Grinch ruining that happiness for me, leading me to think there's something ridiculous there. It's happiness, period. |
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Post by augiesannie on Jan 16, 2022 23:16:14 GMT
In the play, during The Argument, Maria reports that they children have become very popular, that everyone smiles at them, and say things like, “Look! There go the von Trapp children!” I liked these images, lemacd, can you imagine the director telling the extras at the bus stop, “OK, in the last take, I told you to ignore them, for this next take, please look like you think they’re crazy!” |
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Post by indigoblue on Jan 16, 2022 23:17:51 GMT
The bystanders are all thinking "Oh look, there are Captain von Trapp's drapes". May be they are fully anticipating him to bring up the rear
in...lederhosen drapes?
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jan 19, 2022 22:04:45 GMT
I love this part in the movie. I'm with missisa, this is all about being happy. Everyone is smiling and laughing and having a blast. The grouchy captain is off to Vienna, so Maria and the children can be free to have fun. The upbeat "favorite things" background music is a nice touch too.
We were talking about this in another thread a while back, but it really bothers me that Maria is never holding Gretl's hand during this sequence. I would never leave a 5 year old alone looking over a railing at the river, or trust her to follow when everyone is crossing the busy street, or think that she was safe being the last one in line running along the cliff with the fishermen below (where she falls and no one notices, but thankfully doesn't tumble to the water below). The mom in me finds this unrealistic. Though, maybe Maria had an understanding with Liesl that she (Maria) would be the leader and Liesl would make sure that the little ones didn't get lost.
I've never really thought much about the bystanders. I don't get the impression that these kids are out and about very often, so I doubt that they were recognized for who they are. They definitely stand out, both in their loudly patterned clothes (everyone on the street seem pretty plainly dressed), and in their wild demeanor (walking with arms out to the side/taking up the whole sidewalk). I think some probably subscribed to the local urchins theory.
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