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Post by lemacd on Mar 5, 2022 23:58:09 GMT
Body language. It's like they just said, "music? never heard of it." Another observation is the stool/seat disguised as a tree stump with someone jacket thrown over it. So... did they really not know any songs or did they just not know all the harmonies and counter melodies? The do-re-mi song would incline me to think that is exactly what we're supposed to think. But that would be weird...
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Post by Chris&Byng on Mar 9, 2022 1:22:09 GMT
This is an interesting choice for discussion. Here's my two cents
Marta says: "Father doesn't like us to sing!" Friederich says: "We don't know any songs" Louisa says: "We don't even know how to sing" Liesl looks kind of blankly between the two of them.
I think the older children have been conditioned to say this - because Georg doesn't approve and it's a way to keep the younger ones from asking questions. I imagine the oldest 3 children have fond memories of singing with their parents - after all, when Maria presents Georg with the guitar during the Edelweiss scene, she goads him on by saying "she was told he was quite good" - likely a tale told by the older children?
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Post by lemacd on Mar 9, 2022 5:14:46 GMT
@chris&Byng that's a very good answer, and makes sense.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 10, 2022 22:29:20 GMT
This is an interesting choice for discussion. Here's my two cents Marta says: "Father doesn't like us to sing!" Friederich says: "We don't know any songs" Louisa says: "We don't even know how to sing" Liesl looks kind of blankly between the two of them. I think the older children have been conditioned to say this - because Georg doesn't approve and it's a way to keep the younger ones from asking questions. I imagine the oldest 3 children have fond memories of singing with their parents - after all, when Maria presents Georg with the guitar during the Edelweiss scene, she goads him on by saying "she was told he was quite good" - likely a tale told by the older children? Absolutely. I think the older ones definitely know how to sing (FS tells us that music was part of their house before Agathe died). Liesl is the one who suggests to Maria that she should offer the guitar to Georg before Edelweiss, mentions that she remembers when he used to play (a very very long time ago), and also clearly knows what she is supposed to do when he motions for her to sing the echo to his chorus. And Friedrich says "Play us something we know" when everyone is encouraging Georg to sing (though I suppose he could mean one of the songs they have recently learned with Maria). Still, I love this theory that the older ones know many songs, but have been conditioned (or maybe instructed in no uncertain terms by their father) that they are not supposed to talk about singing and music with the younger ones. It makes it more plausible that they could go from a no music household to worthy of being a festival performance group in a few weeks if at least some of them have some background in music too.
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 11, 2022 0:34:08 GMT
If Agathe died soon after Gretl was born, then that would have been 5 or so years before (could have been more recent).
So Kurt (11?) would have been 6 or older and also would be able to remember something of the singing if they had done a lot of it.
Brigitta is a clever cookie so may be able to remember some of it too.
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 24, 2022 0:30:25 GMT
Apart from bananas and grapes, what fruit do they have at their picnic there?
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Post by lemacd on Mar 24, 2022 17:08:55 GMT
Apart from bananas and grapes, what fruit do they have at their picnic there? I see apples, in fact I think that is what Brigitta throws "fa"...
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 25, 2022 0:47:15 GMT
They are very big apples! A special Tyrolean variety?!
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Post by lemacd on Mar 25, 2022 20:01:23 GMT
They are very big apples! A special Tyrolean variety?! haha perhaps.
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