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Post by utility_singer on Apr 24, 2014 11:20:08 GMT
Home was a lovely read. I forget if you've read CP's book or not? Totally worth it.
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 24, 2014 16:57:46 GMT
Sorry, I wasn't very complete in my post! I've listened to Home <3, and read Story of the .... (which I liked for the background, but I can't say I was as engrossed in). And CP's memoir? LOVED it, I have a thing for bad boys although I was smart enough not to marry one. I felt kind of guilty being swept off my feet by someone who behaved so badly but enough time hanging around with the rest of you cured me of that. I just ordered "Maria."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 1:32:58 GMT
I received my copy of "In Spite of Myself" this afternoon. I was going to write chapter 6 and let Maria spend the evening with Georg but she gets to wait now. I'm spending the evening with Christopher. :-)
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 25, 2014 1:58:30 GMT
Glad for you. Not so glad for Maria (or me, since I don't get to read your next chapter yet)
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Post by paula on Apr 25, 2014 2:54:20 GMT
I'm spending the evening with Christopher. :-) My turn next! Remember, you have to share him!
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Apr 28, 2014 12:29:39 GMT
Home was a lovely read. I forget if you've read CP's book or not? Totally worth it. No I haven't got Chris' book, but Home may have prompted me to go out and buy every autobiography/memoir written by anyone even vaguely linked to TSOM
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Post by utility_singer on May 7, 2014 10:49:51 GMT
I wonder if this is because she gave herself back to God, or because she finally 'gave' herself to Georg?
Because that's the way my sick mind works.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 23:14:39 GMT
I wonder if this is because she gave herself back to God, or because she finally 'gave' herself to Georg? Because that's the way my sick mind works. and we love you all the more for it!!!
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Post by lemacd on May 8, 2014 0:19:21 GMT
Not to ruin the fantasy but she avoided church because she was angry at God.
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Post by utility_singer on May 8, 2014 1:09:51 GMT
Oh, I know that. I just wonder why she says that from then on they celebrated their anniversary on Christmas.
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Post by lemacd on May 8, 2014 1:12:39 GMT
I think that was the day that she reconciled her marriage to him as true and forever as opposed to just until the children grew up.
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Post by lemacd on May 8, 2014 1:13:55 GMT
Guess #2: The first wedding she married the children and now she acknowledges that she married him.
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Post by utility_singer on May 8, 2014 1:46:20 GMT
Those both sound likely. It just seems such a foreign concept to me, to celebrate their anniversary on a day different than the one on which they were first married.
I have a similar mental block in real life. A friend's nephew just had a civil ceremony here on April 5, then had a 'destination' wedding on one of the islands on April 24. My friend said they will celebrate on the 24th every year. Seems strange to me.
I know this situation is very different than the one poor real life Maria went through ( I can certainly understand her anger and sense of betrayal). Maybe it's my OCD kicking in.
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Post by indigoblue on May 28, 2014 21:56:29 GMT
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Post by NatureCalleth on Sept 17, 2019 0:11:47 GMT
Well, he was a man, and men are notoriously bad communicators. Sounds like somebody has had some experience with this.
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Post by indigoblue on Nov 4, 2019 23:12:34 GMT
I always rather like this one.
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Post by NatureCalleth on Nov 7, 2019 5:29:43 GMT
Yeah, that's really sad that she wasn't completely and totally in love with him in real life like she was in the movie. As far as lack of sex ed, I can't help but remember back to (and have a chuckle) about that awful story from a few months ago where it was just a sex ed class morphed into a story ("are you ill?" he he he he!!) But back on topic, probably a bit of a shock to the system for Maria to suddenly find herself pregnant if she didn't realise that "it" could happen if you are doing "it"! Oh my god, the "are you ill?" one, I've read that fanfiction. L M A O
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Post by indigoblue on Jan 10, 2020 23:13:22 GMT
Not sure whether this fits in here, but I went to a great talk on Laurence of Arabia (TE Laurence).
His background was described as being difficult, as his father was from an Irish landowning family, but who left his wife to marry his children's nanny. His wife wouldn't divorce him, so the couple lived together unmarried in Oxford, UK, and had 4 children. However, the difference in their social status and the fact that they were unmarried meant that they were socially unaccepted, and lived isolated lives. They also had to change their names.
Accepted that Georg and Maria were married after his first wife's death, but I wonder how difficult it would have been if G&M had stayed in Austria after their marriage with their differing social backgrounds? As I understand it, Austria was (and still is) very socially conservative.
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Post by ANeedlePullingThread on Jan 11, 2020 0:55:51 GMT
Speaking of Maria’s autobiography, is that where the line “Dont lie to me, you can’t even do it properly” comes from? I see that quoted in many fanfics with credit to her, but I’ve not seen from which book it is. I wish I knew the context as well, whether he said it in sweetness (as is the case in most Fanfics) or whether it was a true argument.
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 19, 2020 0:11:20 GMT
Yeah, that's really sad that she wasn't completely and totally in love with him in real life like she was in the movie. As far as lack of sex ed, I can't help but remember back to (and have a chuckle) about that awful story from a few months ago where it was just a sex ed class morphed into a story ("are you ill?" he he he he!!) But back on topic, probably a bit of a shock to the system for Maria to suddenly find herself pregnant if she didn't realise that "it" could happen if you are doing "it"! Oh my god, the "are you ill?" one, I've read that fanfiction. L M A O I don't remember that one. I don't suppose I want to go hunting it down either.
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Post by emilia78 on Apr 19, 2020 11:20:03 GMT
Guess #2: The first wedding she married the children and now she acknowledges that she married him. I cannot understand why the real Maria, since she did not love the captain, married him. She could stay with the whole family as an employee, why would she be obliged to marry a man with no feelings for him? So many women at that time were working as governesses or housekeepers or servants in rich households. Also if we think about Maria's past, I do not think her childhood was so innocent, sterilized and pink, neither real Maria had her mind on the clouds. She was raised in a peasant household, so only by living with animals, she knew what is the cycle of life. At 15 she went away to stay with friends and at 18 she studied to be a teacher, according to wikipedia. At the convent was she a postulant or only an employee?? Maria of TSOM was so aware of having fun and living to the fullest...she knew how to live socially and express herself. So since her heart was open enough to accept and fall in love with the captain, and she had such strong feelings, of course she knew the basics of sexuality. You don't have to be a genius to understand after all haha. What would you think would be the story if the baroness had not revealed to Maria her feelings to the Captain?? If the baroness stayed silent and just watched them ??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 20:10:42 GMT
What would you think would be the story if the baroness had not revealed to Maria her feelings to the Captain?? If the baroness stayed silent and just watched them ?? I think that they would have confessed their feelings either way.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 24, 2020 20:17:43 GMT
What would you think would be the story if the baroness had not revealed to Maria her feelings to the Captain?? If the baroness stayed silent and just watched them ?? Fun question. If Elsa hadn't confronted her, do you think Maria would have shown up for dinner or found a way to get out of it? Would she have picked the blue dress to wear to dinner? Regardless, I don't think Georg would have proposed to Elsa. If Elsa stayed out of it indefinitely, I think Georg and Maria likely would have kept flirting with each other until September. Then Georg would have had to decide whether to ask her to stay on as governess for longer or confess his feelings. There's no way he would let her go back to the abbey without at least trying to get her to stay one way or the other.
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