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Post by lemacd on Apr 29, 2014 23:11:51 GMT
Sorry to divert the fascinating line of conversation, but the storyline where FS is antagonistic to Maria sounds remarkably like the novel 'Rebecca' by Daphne Du Maurier, where the 'new girl' in the household (with a buttoned-up sort like our captain for a husband) is rather plagued by Mrs Danvers, the housekeeper with a secret. Not sure how many of you are aware of this book - maybe it is only well-known in this country, as it is set in Cornwall, England. i don't have the time for it but you have my movie mash up juices going by bringing up this comparison... but like i said, no time. i can't juggle multiple stories like some of you wonder kids.
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Post by lemacd on Apr 29, 2014 23:17:07 GMT
and since we're talking about Frau Schmidt, I got to wondering... if no one has picked up on it, i was bitten by the 'downton abbey' bug a few months ago and it has been quite a fun learning experience. in the show, the housekeeper is called mrs hughes but it is explained many times that housekeepers were always called 'mrs' even though they weren't married. so it made me wonder if that was the same in all european aristocracy households, if Frau Schmidt was actually unmarried.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 0:00:04 GMT
i don't have the time for it but you have my movie mash up juices going by bringing up this comparison... but like i said, no time. i can't juggle multiple stories like some of you wonder kids. Just file the idea away for a rainy day. (like when you are bored with nothing to do - like yeah right!!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 0:02:22 GMT
Interesting idea about Frau Schmidt being married/not married. I guess the title of Frau may just refer to the fact that she is an older lady. If she lives at the villa there are several options. either she is married and widowed, she is married and there is a Mr Schmidt somewhere or she is unmarried and just using the title (I don't know for fame and fortune or whatever, like of like other people now adopting the Dr title!! <cough cough>)
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 30, 2014 1:17:15 GMT
He quit that after the pericarditis episode that he thought would kill him (and later he found that the doc who'd finally diagnosed him properly and advised him to stop had died of lung cancer from smoking himself). Though he smoked onscreen in Muhammad Ali's Greatest Fight, I don't think he's taken it up again. I don't think JA would have had too much issue with it, as smoking was so prevalent at the time. And, wasn't Blake a smoker? I seem to recall photos of him with cigars. in one of the BTS photos posted last week he has a pack of Marlboros curled into his hands. Funny, how Elsa is smoking in so many scenes but he was really the big smoker.
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 30, 2014 1:22:52 GMT
Yes, I had noticed he was a Marlboro Man.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Apr 30, 2014 4:44:06 GMT
Yeah, I definitely have seen pics of CP with a cigarette. There's that one of him a Julie on set and there's another one of him with Debbie Turner at the pool party at JA's house
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Post by mireille on May 2, 2014 21:01:48 GMT
There's that one of him a Julie on set and there's another one of him with Debbie Turner at the pool party at JA's house Haven't seen that one. Do you have it somewhere?
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Post by utility_singer on May 3, 2014 0:09:28 GMT
There's that one of him a Julie on set and there's another one of him with Debbie Turner at the pool party at JA's house Haven't seen that one. Do you have it somewhere?
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Post by paula on May 3, 2014 0:16:03 GMT
He.... looks.... so.... good!!!! (I can't breathe!!!)
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Post by augiesannie on May 3, 2014 0:22:40 GMT
He's also smoking in that pretentious "all comedy is sad" video. I think he's drunk, too.
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Post by paula on May 3, 2014 0:32:52 GMT
Okay, I rest my case. This discussion thread was about Frau Schmidt, but look at who we're talking about and what we're saying.....
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Post by utility_singer on May 3, 2014 0:53:16 GMT
He's also smoking in that pretentious "all comedy is sad" video. I think he's drunk, too. He is absolutely drunk in that. No question.
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Post by lemacd on May 3, 2014 1:48:29 GMT
seriously people, seek help! this is frau schmidts thread!!! the poor woman has all over 5 total minutes screen time!!!!
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Post by mireille on May 3, 2014 6:59:57 GMT
We just wanted to see why Frau Schmidt stayed with him all these years *cough* Wouldn't you stay for years with an employer like that.
Uhm Frau Schmidt, well.....Uhm....as you said we don't see much of her. Let me think.........I think she never would never gossip but what kind of stories do think she can tell us?
Some great memories of the children. Maybe a fight here and there. Remodeling stories. ...any more ideas?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 12:32:14 GMT
So back to poor Frau Schmidt. She really did need more screen time. We didn't even see her at the party (we saw Franz unfortunately).
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Post by utility_singer on May 3, 2014 12:50:16 GMT
So back to poor Frau Schmidt. She really did need more screen time. We didn't even see her at the party (we saw Franz unfortunately). She was knocking back some sherry in the kitchen.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 14:14:05 GMT
wow! she better watch out... the last time someone knocked back some sherry, she fell asleep and had bugs put in her hair!!
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Post by utility_singer on May 3, 2014 14:16:00 GMT
That woman is the reason she's drinking the sherry. Can you imagine dealing with Elsa in party-planning mode?
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Post by mireille on May 3, 2014 18:14:15 GMT
I would have liked to see her welcome them home after the honeymoon.
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Post by augiesannie on May 3, 2014 21:29:32 GMT
I would have liked to see her welcome them home after the honeymoon. Like in the play.
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Post by indigoblue on May 3, 2014 23:03:45 GMT
I just quickly scanned in some pictures from my TSOM making of book of Frau Schmidt I have another idea...(I wanted to bring up Charleybec's photos of Frau Schmidt here, but instead I got a link (?); can anyone help?!) It struck me that if you take away FS's double chin, pile her hair up high, and dress her in couture, you end up with...the Baroness. Hey, what does this mean?! Is FS the Baroness' mother? Is she in fact a plant to keep an eye on goings-on between Maria and the Captain? (No corridor-creeping, please, not even during thunderstorms...) Tell me what you think!
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Post by augiesannie on May 4, 2014 18:54:10 GMT
Sounds like a great AU to me, @indigoblue!
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on May 5, 2014 3:20:01 GMT
Haven't seen that one. Do you have it somewhere? That's it. The only copy I had was in my TSOM scrapbook (which was how I knew it was at JA's post production pool party)
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Post by indigoblue on May 18, 2014 22:30:45 GMT
We have, I think, worked out that Frau Schmidt is something of a gossip -
Here she is phoning Franz, to say she's heard the Baroness is leaving immediately for Vienna, complete with bags...
What fuel THAT is for her chatter! Which brings me to a question about the Baroness that has been keeping me awake at night; but, as it may well engender some discussion about Elsa, I think I will put it on Elsa's board: see you there!
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 3, 2020 23:30:29 GMT
Here is the great lady:what chance that she was the spy in the house, not Franz?
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 4, 2020 12:25:45 GMT
Here is the great lady:what chance that she was the spy in the house, not Franz? None. They make that clear when they cut to him watching out the window as they are sneaking off into the night, pushing the car.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 4, 2020 14:58:03 GMT
Here is the great lady:what chance that she was the spy in the house, not Franz? I suppose she and Franz could have been a spy team. Though, Frau Schmidt seems like she cares about this family. She looks pained when telling Maria about there being no more music and no more laughter in the house after the captain lost his poor wife. I don't think she was in on it. Though, Franz obviously was with the conversation with Rolf and the watching from the window indicating that it was he that told Zeller about the escape plan. Do you think Frau Schmidt knew that Franz was a Nazi? If she did, I don't think she knew the extent of his disloyalty to the captain.
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 4, 2020 22:33:48 GMT
Assuming they were long-time employees, she must have picked up something about Franz's politics. In the play I seem to remember that they talk together in a friendly manner, although this still doesn't mean she sympathises.
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 10, 2020 11:35:21 GMT
Assuming they were long-time employees, she must have picked up something about Franz's politics. In the play I seem to remember that they talk together in a friendly manner, although this still doesn't mean she sympathises. Yep, they were co-workers. We've all worked with people we don't like, or don't agree with on a variety of issues, but still are nice to.
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