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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 0:17:11 GMT
The line "I go to the hills when my heart is lonely" has been on my mind lately. That line, IMO, was filmed in such a way to stand out and it makes me wonder why her heart is lonely.
I mean, if TSOM was a Disney movie, we would be left to infer that her heart is lonely because she's not the living the life she was born to live, but is that it?
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Post by utility_singer on May 11, 2014 1:46:16 GMT
I think that probably is it. R&H are fairly obvious, not a lot of subtext in their songs.
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Post by augiesannie on May 11, 2014 11:20:54 GMT
agree. it's a great observation that the way it's filmed really underscores it.
A related explanation might be that she is happiest when she is in the mountains (instead of in the Abbey) - kind of the same thing - but I like the way you put it better because --now that I think of it -- this is the same line that Georg walks in and joins the children on when they are singing for Elsa (although he is mouthing a few lines before that) -- oooh, @tantekj, you came up with something good here!
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Post by utility_singer on May 11, 2014 12:01:20 GMT
I think there was a lot of subtext added into the movie, via the screenplay, the direction, and the acting. Just not from R&H lol
And I think Anne nailed it with the connection beginning between M & G when we see him sing that line to the children. Both of them are Lonely Hearts, she goes to her mountain; Elsa says he's "more at home" in the country. BAM. Love Connection. Not that viewers are to consciously be aware and be all "ooh, when do we get some sexy time" but the first step that leads through him rehiring her, the puppet show, Edelweiss, and on from there.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 12:16:49 GMT
It is the whole "in tune" with each other thing again (like their arms lowering at the same time at the end of the Laendler). Love love LOVE this idea!! So back to the song "the sound of music".... Background to this? So Maria sings it, so I might have thought that she made it up being her "mountain" song but Georg also knows it so does that mean that it is a common song (or was he really stalking her in the mountains like in lemacd's story)? It's late and I'm tired and forgive me if the answer is obvious! |
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Post by augiesannie on May 11, 2014 12:54:01 GMT
I often think to myself that it doesn't sound much like a common mountain folky song that they'd both know. But so what?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 20:39:25 GMT
So any ideas why they would both know it?
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Post by indigoblue on May 11, 2014 22:25:04 GMT
Maybe it was a Hot Hit in 1929! (Georg might have been quite a shaker in his youth...)
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 23:17:05 GMT
Maybe it was a Hot Hit in 1929! (Georg might have been quite a shaker in his youth...) ROFL!!!! |
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Post by augiesannie on May 12, 2014 0:39:13 GMT
oh, yeah. I can see him shakin' it to that line about larks learning to pray.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 4, 2020 15:39:33 GMT
agree. it's a great observation that the way it's filmed really underscores it. A related explanation might be that she is happiest when she is in the mountains (instead of in the Abbey) - kind of the same thing - but I like the way you put it better because --now that I think of it -- this is the same line that Georg walks in and joins the children on when they are singing for Elsa (although he is mouthing a few lines before that) -- oooh, @tantekj, you came up with something good here! This thread is talking about the line "I go to the hills when my heart is lonely." This line sticks out to me every time Maria sings it on the mountain and Georg sings it after the argument. How can she be lonely in an abbey full of people but not lonely alone on the mountain? This is easy for an introvert like me to answer, she is lonely when she is unhappy regardless of how many people are with her, and happy when she is alone doing what she likes doing (me too!). Similarly with Georg, he is lonely in a world filled with high society parties, but happy when he is at home with his children. He has just forgot what makes him happy until Maria shocks some sense into him. I think this songs reminds him of his late wife, creates a special connection with Maria, makes him think about what makes him happy personally, and heals his relationship with his children all in one swing. Am I overthinking this? It is not a coincidence that Georg enters the room singing this line right? His heart is lonely and so is hers, and they are going to heal each other? |
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 4, 2020 16:32:19 GMT
I agree with some of this but not all of it. Obviously given my point above, I must have thought there was some significance that he entered the room on that line - but maybe iit just seemed like the right moment musically?And I imagine that the song does remind him of his wife and heals his relationship with his children - like he is reminded of what happiness feels like. I do also think it’s a shift in M&G’s relationship. I’ve always been a fan of the “slow burn” between M&G - although I’ve gone against my principles once or twice!
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 5, 2020 13:01:42 GMT
I agree with some of this but not all of it. Obviously given my point above, I must have thought there was some significance that he entered the room on that line - but maybe iit just seemed like the right moment musically?And I imagine that the song does remind him of his wife and heals his relationship with his children - like he is reminded of what happiness feels like. I do also think it’s a shift in M&G’s relationship. I’ve always been a fan of the “slow burn” between M&G - although I’ve gone against my principles once or twice! Ok, after all these years, it hit me like this. Maria "goes to the hills" because her heart is lonely. She feels closer to God there than in the artificial confines of the Abbey. Georg enters on "go to the hills" and that is (figuratively speaking) how he becomes whole again (Maria literally comes down from her mountain and is sent to him). On her mountain is where Maria truly begins to understand the children (conversation about why they tricked the governesses) "I look to the hills, from whence cometh my help" They literally walk over the mountains toward their new lives. Oh, and Elsa merely admires the mountains from afar, when they are in the car. Robert Wise was genius. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 1:31:57 GMT
I agree with some of this but not all of it. Obviously given my point above, I must have thought there was some significance that he entered the room on that line - but maybe iit just seemed like the right moment musically?And I imagine that the song does remind him of his wife and heals his relationship with his children - like he is reminded of what happiness feels like. I do also think it’s a shift in M&G’s relationship. I’ve always been a fan of the “slow burn” between M&G - although I’ve gone against my principles once or twice! Ok, after all these years, it hit me like this. Maria "goes to the hills" because her heart is lonely. She feels closer to God there than in the artificial confines of the Abbey. Georg enters on "go to the hills" and that is (figuratively speaking) how he becomes whole again (Maria literally comes down from her mountain and is sent to him). On her mountain is where Maria truly begins to understand the children (conversation about why they tricked the governesses) "I look to the hills, from whence cometh my help" They literally walk over the mountains toward their new lives. Oh, and Elsa merely admires the mountains from afar, when they are in the car. Robert Wise was genius. King James Version (KJV) Psalm 121 - I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 9, 2020 22:11:51 GMT
Ok, after all these years, it hit me like this. Maria "goes to the hills" because her heart is lonely. She feels closer to God there than in the artificial confines of the Abbey. Georg enters on "go to the hills" and that is (figuratively speaking) how he becomes whole again (Maria literally comes down from her mountain and is sent to him). On her mountain is where Maria truly begins to understand the children (conversation about why they tricked the governesses) "I look to the hills, from whence cometh my help" They literally walk over the mountains toward their new lives. Oh, and Elsa merely admires the mountains from afar, when they are in the car. Robert Wise was genius. King James Version (KJV) Psalm 121 - I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. Doesn't RM say she will lift up her eyes to the mountains so Maria and her family will not be alone on their journey crossing them at the end of the movie? Not surprising that she went with a Bible quote.  |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 9, 2020 22:13:03 GMT
I agree with some of this but not all of it. Obviously given my point above, I must have thought there was some significance that he entered the room on that line - but maybe iit just seemed like the right moment musically?And I imagine that the song does remind him of his wife and heals his relationship with his children - like he is reminded of what happiness feels like. I do also think it’s a shift in M&G’s relationship. I’ve always been a fan of the “slow burn” between M&G - although I’ve gone against my principles once or twice! Ok, after all these years, it hit me like this. Maria "goes to the hills" because her heart is lonely. She feels closer to God there than in the artificial confines of the Abbey. Georg enters on "go to the hills" and that is (figuratively speaking) how he becomes whole again (Maria literally comes down from her mountain and is sent to him). On her mountain is where Maria truly begins to understand the children (conversation about why they tricked the governesses) "I look to the hills, from whence cometh my help" They literally walk over the mountains toward their new lives. Oh, and Elsa merely admires the mountains from afar, when they are in the car. Robert Wise was genius. Wow. Just wow. This is the kind of analysis I am here for. Brilliant! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 22:13:12 GMT
King James Version (KJV) Psalm 121 - I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. Doesn't RM say she will lift up her eyes to the mountains so Maria and her family will not be alone on their journey crossing them at the end of the movie? Not surprising that she went with a Bible quote. She says something along the lines of, "Remember, you will never be alone." and then uses the Bible quote. |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Dec 1, 2020 19:15:26 GMT
When Georg is approaching the door to see the children singing TSOM to Elsa they are at the part in the song where there is an echo of "Every song that it hears". We can't see anyone in the room yet, but it sounds like one of the voices is lower than the others just for that line. I always kind of thought it was Elsa (she has kind of a sultry voice), but would she really be singing along?? Does anyone else know what I am talking about? It catches my ear every time I watch this scene.
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Post by indigoblue on Dec 2, 2020 0:40:54 GMT
Max, more like?!
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Post by reverendcaptain on Dec 5, 2020 13:21:52 GMT
I don't think it sounds like Max. Listen for it the next time you watch and see what you think. Maybe I'm just crazy.
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Post by blossomofsnow on Dec 5, 2020 16:49:36 GMT
I always thought it was Friedrich
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Post by reverendcaptain on Dec 9, 2020 16:35:54 GMT
I always thought it was Friedrich Maybe. But he doesn't sound like that for the rest of the song. It's a mystery. |
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 16, 2022 16:38:50 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5fqLVDJ6y8'Songs make you feel thoughts'. I so love the way Julie is part of the song, and it is part of her. I have always wished I could see her recording the SOM songs, and here she is, recording The Sound of Music and Edelweiss some years after the film. Enjoy Edelweiss first, then TSOM.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 24, 2022 18:50:04 GMT
The emotion in her voice and body language for every word of these songs is awesome! She gave 110% for this.
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