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Post by mireille on Aug 13, 2014 17:54:26 GMT
We saw him as a very strict Captain in the beginning but when he's with Elsa he let's go of this side of him.
His playfulness is very appealing!
I wonder if he was like this with the children before Agathe died. Is that why the children are seeking attention from him?
You see it when the children first sing, how they laugh at his small gestures. And of course when he tells them there's no dinner for them.
I only wish we would have seen more of this playfulness with Maria
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 23:20:57 GMT
I only wish we would have seen more of this playfulness with Maria That's what we have fan fiction for. I love writing the playfulness/banter between them as I imagine it in my mind. |
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Post by lemacd on Aug 13, 2014 23:52:30 GMT
I know it isn't much but we have the whole ridiculous pinecone/silly whistle moment (which I think is silly and ridiculous itself) and he seems soppy when he asks "what else does the RM say?" Another moment that kinda makes me cringe. Not so much the moment as the soppy tone. Probably because he's kinda laughing and Maria is serious.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 14, 2014 1:23:39 GMT
There's the "no, no, no" when Maria first asks him to sing....
And when he greets Maria upon her return from the Abbey, even though it's a HUGE emotional moment, there's something about "Good evening" that's a little playful.
I agree that exploring this side of him is good fodder for ff although I don't like to make him too sappy!
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Post by lemacd on Aug 14, 2014 2:26:59 GMT
i always think he is trying not to crack up laughing when he says hello when she returns from the abbey.
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Post by mireille on Aug 14, 2014 6:12:25 GMT
Yes I love at the little things you see in his character. It makes me wonder how the moments and day after the rowboat would be. Would he not only joke around with his children and Elsa but with Maria too?
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Post by clarinetjamie on Apr 15, 2015 16:18:11 GMT
Old thread I know, but do you think, even though he probably won't admit it, that he was amused by her from the moment he met her? My guess is that he was, at least to me it seems that way because of the way he reacts to her little antics. I think it surprises him that she's so willing to stand up to him. Maybe no one else has challenged him that way sense his wife's death and he is a little taken aback by her boldness and maybe even a little curious about her?
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 15, 2015 17:40:00 GMT
Old thread I know, but do you think, even though he probably won't admit it, that he was amused by her from the moment he met her? My guess is that he was, at least to me it seems that way because of the way he reacts to her little antics. I think it surprises him that she's so willing to stand up to him. Maybe no one else has challenged him that way sense his wife's death and he is a little taken aback by her boldness and maybe even a little curious about her? I do think he was. Amused, certainly intrigued, and arguably attracted by that----not even in so much of a physical way (though he certainly gives her the once over with "turn", and "hat, off") but many men find attraction in being challenged. Maria gave him that in spades, and in just the first ten minutes. Just as I think she delighted in challenging him, right from the very beginning. Answering to a whistle would be "humiliating", yet when he turns to leave the first thing she does is whistle, and tell him she doesn't know his signal? If she wasn't an innocent nun I'd say she was already flirting with him. |
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Post by lemacd on Apr 15, 2015 18:54:55 GMT
i guess i can agree that he was fascinated. he certainly could tell from the start that she was different. i love the moment when he asks if she was as much trouble at the abbey... there he is pretty much mocking her with what he thinks is a clever backhanded comment and she just shakes it off. and yes, the "what's your signal" moment is classic. so i think he was definitely fascinated. i am not sure i would describe him as amused, not at that moment. he's very military man in that scene and his reaction to me is like someone who has just met a new recruit that is very green and very undisciplined and has a smart answer for everything. i think he sees her as a headache from the start, but definitely unlike anyone he's ever met.
if everything goes according to the plan as he sees it (basically the children will run her through the paces with tricks and difficult behavior), she won't be so bold and cheeky anymore. but, of course, the jokes on him. and the joke is a bit lost if he is too amused or too attracted.
i'm discovering after two years of super-analysis of this movie, i'm keen to take a lot of the scenes at face value. i like the different interpretations. always interesting to learn how others see it.
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 16, 2015 0:57:35 GMT
I was thinking more wry amusement, rather than ha-ha funny amusement. Sort of the way Southerners say "bless her heart" when they really mean "oh, honey, you just don't have a clue".
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Post by clarinetjamie on Apr 16, 2015 5:11:04 GMT
Yes, I wouldn't say amused by her in a sense of attraction, but amused in a sense of surprised by her tenacity. I don't think at this point he's actually thinking wow what a woman, lol.
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 17, 2015 11:10:08 GMT
Though it is interesting to note that when he makes her turn, he does that little cluck/sigh sound before "It's the dress". He must have seen some potential there, ROFL!
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Post by acid.milque on Apr 17, 2015 14:53:28 GMT
I would say definitely yes. I have always thought that. i guess i can agree that he was fascinated. he certainly could tell from the start that she was different. i love the moment when he asks if she was as much trouble at the abbey... there he is pretty much mocking her with what he thinks is a clever backhanded comment and she just shakes it off. and yes, the "what's your signal" moment is classic. so i think he was definitely fascinated. i am not sure i would describe him as amused, not at that moment. he's very military man in that scene and his reaction to me is like someone who has just met a new recruit that is very green and very undisciplined and has a smart answer for everything. i think he sees her as a headache from the start, but definitely unlike anyone he's ever met. I very much agree. I don't think he was amused at that point either, more like annoyed. On a side note, this conversation has me thinking of when she asks him "what's wrong with the children?", he gives her that haughty "there's nothing wrong with the children. Only the governesses". Haha! |
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 17, 2015 18:27:37 GMT
I think he slowly realises from the scene in the hall at the beginning that he has met his match, and that is exactly what he finds attractive in her.
Prior to that he felt the need to be superior to his servants (as their employer and probably a habit learned from the Navy hierarchy).
When she shows no sign of capitulating to his sarcasm and belittling remarks, even coming back with comments that disarm him, he has to acknowledge that she is an equal with considerable, but different, capabilities...then the romance begins...
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Post by patrickssong on Apr 18, 2015 4:29:32 GMT
When she mentions that she fell in love with him when he blew that 'silly whistle' in the gazebo, you can see Georg's self depreciating eye roll. It is kind of cute.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Apr 18, 2015 5:55:20 GMT
When she mentions that she fell in love with him when he blew that 'silly whistle' in the gazebo, you can see Georg's self depreciating eye roll. It is kind of cute. I've never noticed that. Now I have to go back and watch it and look for it on Sunday when I go see it in the theater. |
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Post by cass on Apr 18, 2015 18:28:40 GMT
I think he slowly realises from the scene in the hall at the beginning that he has met his match, and that is exactly what he finds attractive in her. Prior to that he felt the need to be superior to his servants (as their employer and probably a habit learned from the Navy hierarchy). When she shows no sign of capitulating to his sarcasm and belittling remarks, even coming back with comments that disarm him, he has to acknowledge that she is an equal with considerable, but different, capabilities...then the romance begins... Can I plaster this to my forehead or frame it on my wall or...? |
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 20, 2015 18:11:17 GMT
there is something in that line, "you can call me captain." at face value, it's a chilly put down. but - could i have just imagined it ? - there's an air of resignation to it.
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 20, 2015 18:12:48 GMT
PS I wonder what mireille meant when she said "You see it when the children first sing, how they laugh at his small gestures." |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Aug 30, 2015 4:18:07 GMT
I think I see some of his playful side in this screencap. One of the very few moments where he's like this with the children:  |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Aug 30, 2015 4:51:01 GMT
Yes, there and the moment when they come back from their honeymoon.
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Post by frakkinghack on Aug 31, 2015 1:31:12 GMT
  Any excuse to post a pic. I love him here with the kids |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Aug 31, 2015 3:00:23 GMT
^^Love them! One of my favourite scenes of the von Trapps post-marriage. I only noticed recently that Georg picks up Marta and not Gretl, even though the latter is younger. So you would expect her to be picked up. I would assume it's because Kym was too heavy to be picked up at that point?
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Aug 31, 2015 6:39:16 GMT
^^Love them! One of my favourite scenes of the von Trapps post-marriage. I only noticed recently that Georg picks up Marta and not Gretl, even though the latter is younger. So you would expect her to be picked up. I would assume it's because Kym was too heavy to be picked up at that point? Most likely. It kinda makes me wonder why it was SO important for Gretl to be the one on his shoulders at the end |
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Post by utility_singer on Aug 31, 2015 12:21:56 GMT
It would make the most sense to have the 'baby' on his back, but it does seem nitpicky.
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Sept 1, 2015 1:51:47 GMT
Hmm, yeah, maybe it's because the Captain was carrying Gretl on his shoulders in the Broadway production? Plus it wouldn't make sense to have a 5 year-old to walk up a super steep mountain.
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 1, 2015 11:15:14 GMT
Hmm, yeah, maybe it's because the Captain was carrying Gretl on his shoulders in the Broadway production? Plus it wouldn't make sense to have a 5 year-old to walk up a super steep mountain. They changed so many other things, I can't imagine they wouldn't have changed that if they'd wanted. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 1, 2015 17:46:57 GMT
I've never even contemplated that scene that way. I just always thought it was because she was the youngest so it made the most sense.
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 6, 2015 22:49:15 GMT
I've always been slightly surprised by his nonchalance at getting yet another governess, despite having had (?)11 before who presumably all left under a cloud. With that experience, most people (particularly mothers, I suppose) would hover about for a few days, ensuring she can keep control. But he just reads the riot act about what they are supposed to do and marches off.
Or is that just what a man would do, particularly a military man (who can't wait to rush off to his Slice of Nice in Vienna)?
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 6, 2015 22:57:06 GMT
I definitely think it is a man thing. And I don't know that waiting around for any length of time would help; they'd be on their best behavior with him at home (since that's where they want him).
I think that is what he's alluding to with his, "Oh, there's nothing wrong with the children, only the governesses" line. Kids will be kids. If the governess can't hack it, he might as well find out right away. Maybe that's why the 11th one only lasted two hours---number 10 left, he got number 11 to report while he was still away (maybe an agency?) and since he wasn't coming back the kids did something really foul to her?
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