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Post by acid.milque on Mar 2, 2015 22:18:52 GMT
Chris singing Edelweiss- I remember seeing this on youtube a while ago. Here it is on vimeo, Chris singing Edelweiss.
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Post by semla on Mar 3, 2015 22:59:11 GMT
It's a beautiful rendition! Even though I am used to the movie version now, I wish they would have used Chris' own voice for his songs!
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Post by clarinetjamie on Mar 18, 2015 20:40:35 GMT
He did a very nice job, but it is pretty clear (coming from a musician's standpoint) that his voice was not quite as strong as the guy who actually sang the song in the film. He has to stretch a little to reach some of the notes so I can understand why they used someone else's. However there is a kind of sweetness that is portrayed when he sings it himself. Funny though that I recently watched an interview where he said he felt extremely inadequate when singing next to Julie Andrews.
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Post by sagaofjenny on Mar 18, 2015 21:03:46 GMT
Who wouldn't feel inadequate singing next to her, really? His singing was decent, but I think they made the final decision to dub his part because it specifically said in the script that he "used to be quite good," and the children and Max made a bit of a big deal about that so he had to sound more professional. Especially next to Julie.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Mar 18, 2015 21:16:31 GMT
Who wouldn't feel inadequate singing next to her, really? Exactly, I know I would. |
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 18, 2015 22:31:45 GMT
I was in awe, even as a young child, that CP was not only ridiculously handsome, but also had the most gorgeous voice (or so I thought). So when I found out it was someone else's voice, for some reason I always wanted to know what he looked like... so here is the person you have heard but not seen...Bill Lee, shown here:
 The tag on the photo also says 'Cinderella 1965', so presumably this explains his strange get-up !
Just to show we cover every single detail of this film - |
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Post by utility_singer on Mar 19, 2015 1:07:06 GMT
I gave my opinion on this over on the FB page a while ago, but I'll recap here. The only song they truly needed to dub Chris on was Something Good.
His less polished vocals would have worked perfectly for the title song with the children (he hadn't sung in 'years', so sounding a bit rough would be understandable), Edelweiss was lovely and he wasn't singing with Julie, so no real comparing would happen; at the festival would have worked because as a man faced with losing all but his family (and, honestly, if their escape plan didn't work, all of them and perhaps his own life) a beautifully polished voice was unnecessary.
But, that horse left the barn 50 years ago, so.....
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Post by acid.milque on Mar 25, 2015 14:15:40 GMT
I gave my opinion on this over on the FB page a while ago, but I'll recap here. The only song they truly needed to dub Chris on was Something Good. His less polished vocals would have worked perfectly for the title song with the children (he hadn't sung in 'years', so sounding a bit rough would be understandable), Edelweiss was lovely and he wasn't singing with Julie, so no real comparing would happen; at the festival would have worked because as a man faced with losing all but his family (and, honestly, if their escape plan didn't work, all of them and perhaps his own life) a beautifully polished voice was unnecessary. But, that horse left the barn 50 years ago, so..... I agree! I always thought it was really odd that they dubbed his speaking voice in the middle of Something Good. I read/heard that Chris was in there somewhere (as far as singing went) in the SOM songs. The only part I can say for certain was really him was the last word in Edelweiss (the first time he sings it). |
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Post by utility_singer on Mar 25, 2015 18:08:47 GMT
I believe it is also still Chris when he first begins singing when he runs back to the house after hearing the children--the part when he is standing at the door, singing to himself amidst the memories.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Mar 27, 2015 10:12:51 GMT
Who wouldn't feel inadequate singing next to her, really? Totally agree. Who's seen the bit where Liam Neeson talks about having to sing to her in Duet For One? |
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 6, 2015 11:35:40 GMT
I had no idea that his voice was used at all! Good to know.
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Post by indigoblue on Jun 3, 2017 23:48:18 GMT
<iframe src="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/165806779/165806765" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player"></iframe>
CP talking about being dubbed.
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 4, 2017 15:45:38 GMT
<iframe src="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/165806779/165806765" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player"></iframe> CP talking about being dubbed. I'd love to listen to this but i can't make the link work. |
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 5, 2017 11:00:03 GMT
Try this link It has the transcript and you can play the audio from that page. |
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 5, 2017 23:05:56 GMT
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 7, 2017 0:29:44 GMT
Thanks Utility...
I am amazed, listening to that clip,that Bill Lee could sound like he does in TSOM, then descend as low as he does as Shere Khan:is this possible?
Maybe Georg could have done it like that in TSOM ?! Imagine him singing a bit like Shere Khan in 'Something Good'- Haha! Maria would have run a mile.
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 6, 2022 23:37:00 GMT
Found this YouTube clip of Chris singing - may be easier to access than the one in the first post. Is Chris actually playing that guitar? His fingers don't seem to be pressing the right frets... www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBdSBiP1hA |
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 7, 2022 11:15:31 GMT
Found this YouTube clip of Chris singing - may be easier to access than the one in the first post. Is Chris actually playing that guitar? His fingers don't seem to be pressing the right frets... www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBdSBiP1hAIf I recall correctly, he did learn to play for that. But since it was later dubbed by Bill Lee, perhaps he sang in a different key than Chris was playing? Not sure, as I don't play. |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Apr 13, 2022 2:35:27 GMT
I think it's awesome that he tried so hard to learn to sing for this role, but ultimately, I think it was the right decision to dub him. He is a good singer! But Julie is just so out of this world, his voice needed to be better than good to sing with her on their songs together. This is fun to watch though.
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Post by teenytinygoatherds on Apr 13, 2022 7:42:05 GMT
I unfortunately agree with @/reverendcaptain here. He voice sounded rather strained in the video. He did improve over the years (I didn't even know he sung as Henri in An American Tail, he was indeed, quite good.). Wish there was an alternate universe somewhere where we got a revamp of the songs with Plummer's voice. Wouldn't that be something.
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Post by missisa on Apr 13, 2022 20:19:20 GMT
Bill Lee was the composer (and singer, I think) of the Disney classic 101 Dalmatians (1958), an animation masterpiece by the way.
On Spotify you can find some of his songs, although it is difficult. There is one in which his voice is more recognizable (Svenska Sweetheart), in the rest I find it hard to "hear the Captain", which means that the dubbing was certainly unique.
I can't help but to wish to have more of Chris singing! I agree that, if his voice had been included in the final cut, no one would have made a disgusted face and now we would be talking about Chris's voice and not Bill's.
Have u guys heard CP singing "Never say Never" from the lovely animation "An American Tale"? Yes, I love good animated movies (those that are no longer made)
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Post by dontevenknowher on May 3, 2022 4:02:22 GMT
Bill Lee was the composer (and singer, I think) of the Disney classic 101 Dalmatians (1958), an animation masterpiece by the way. On Spotify you can find some of his songs, although it is difficult. There is one in which his voice is more recognizable (Svenska Sweetheart), in the rest I find it hard to "hear the Captain", which means that the dubbing was certainly unique. I can't help but to wish to have more of Chris singing! I agree that, if his voice had been included in the final cut, no one would have made a disgusted face and now we would be talking about Chris's voice and not Bill's. Have u guys heard CP singing "Never say Never" from the lovely animation "An American Tale"? Yes, I love good animated movies (those that are no longer made) If it’s more CP singing you’re after, have you tried his Cyrano recording? I believe it’s on Apple iTunes. He took SoM in part to try and prep for making Cyrano into a musical. |
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Post by missisa on May 3, 2022 8:22:15 GMT
Thank you dontevenknowher ! I already know about his Cyrano and I love the character so much! I think he does a magnificent job with the singing 😊 |
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Post by augiesannie on May 30, 2022 12:38:22 GMT
If I recall, isn't his singing in Cyrano more like what I think they call 'speak singing' (think Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady)
Also, what do we think about CP's statement: " The entrances and exits from the songs were my voice, and then they filled in..." I've always listened for that and I"m not sure how much to believe it.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jul 19, 2022 16:05:30 GMT
I don't know if any of it is his real voice. Maybe the very first "Edel - weiss", where his voice kind of cracks with emotion on the "weiss" part? Still, his real voice in the original post of this thread sounds different than Bill Lee's. Why would they try to piece together two different voices instead of just using one consistent voice?
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 29, 2022 12:50:55 GMT
I don't know if any of it is his real voice. Maybe the very first "Edel - weiss", where his voice kind of cracks with emotion on the "weiss" part? Still, his real voice in the original post of this thread sounds different than Bill Lee's. Why would they try to piece together two different voices instead of just using one consistent voice? i've wondered the same. |
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Post by Chris&Byng on Aug 17, 2022 0:28:57 GMT
If I recall, isn't his singing in Cyrano more like what I think they call 'speak singing' (think Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady) Also, what do we think about CP's statement: " The entrances and exits from the songs were my voice, and then they filled in..." I've always listened for that and I"m not sure how much to believe it. I have the Broadway Cyrano LP (and it's also on Apple Music to take with me  Chris is actually an amazing singer! He obviously had lessons post S& M. His performance is nothing like Rex's, who - like you said - did a lot of talking. There's one song on the album called "Bergerac" that actually gives me goosebumps. |
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Post by missisa on Aug 17, 2022 9:50:30 GMT
Going back to Bill's version of The Sound of Music (The Hills are alive...), I've always noticed that there's something weird about the way the song ends: "once more" / "one song". Anyone else knows what I'm talking about? It's as if the lyrics of the song were one, Bill's pronunciation another, and Chris's vocalization another. Maybe I'm crazy.
By the way, if we are honored to have heard Chris's voice in Edelweiss, aren't there versions of Something Good or TSOM out there with Chris's original voice? I shake just thinking that Fox or whoever must have these audios...
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 20, 2022 19:04:00 GMT
Going back to Bill's version of The Sound of Music (The Hills are alive...), I've always noticed that there's something weird about the way the song ends: "once more" / "one song". Anyone else knows what I'm talking about? It's as if the lyrics of the song were one, Bill's pronunciation another, and Chris's vocalization another. Maybe I'm crazy. By the way, if we are honored to have heard Chris's voice in Edelweiss, aren't there versions of Something Good or TSOM out there with Chris's original voice? I shake just thinking that Fox or whoever must have these audios... I would love to explore the something weird there but I'm not sure what you mean, can you please say more? |
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Post by missisa on Aug 20, 2022 19:22:48 GMT
Yes augiesannie, what I mean is that the end of "The sound of music" song when the Captain sings it with the children for the first time in front of the Baroness, it looks like the last line says: "one song". Here is the clip everyone here has seen tons of times: youtu.be/HHmt-A2mEykBUT if you look for the lyrics it should say "once more". "And I'll sing once more", but this is not what I hear in that scene. So, did Bill Lee slipped up or was to fit with Plummer's lips? Or are the lyrics of the song "wrong"? 😅 or maybe I'm just crazy 🤪 |
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Chris is actually an amazing singer! He obviously had lessons post S& M. His performance is nothing like Rex's, who - like you said - did a lot of talking. There's one song on the album called "Bergerac" that actually gives me goosebumps.