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Post by acid.milque on Mar 2, 2015 21:28:33 GMT
omigosh the scene in part 3 of M & G talking by the Christmas tree is fanworthy even with these actors. ^ I always wondered if they were going to have a Christmas scene in SOM, as they took some Christmas promo stills. Thank you for posting this! I've seen the first and second films on youtube. Someone posted them years about but youtube took them down.  And as far as I can recall they only released a mashed up version of both films with subtitles in English on VHS. |
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Post by acid.milque on Mar 12, 2015 15:28:03 GMT
Thanks again for posting that! Now having watched it again, I remember what I liked about it and what I didn't like about that film. SOM borrowed quite heavily from this film, though a lot of it was improved upon. I like the children from SOM much more than in Trapp Familie. To me the children felt like one unit in Trapp Familie. Hans Holt's Captain, is more 'I don't know how to raise my children so I will fall back upon my navy training'. While I did like his interpretation of the role but hands down no where near the awesomeness of sexy CP.
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Post by austrobob on Jan 7, 2016 15:18:15 GMT
Amazing to see how many elements TSOM borrowed from the original movie. Although "Die Trapp-Familie" is more authentic (character names, storyline, Maria being a teacher etc.), I really prefer "The Sound Of Music". More (better) songs, beautiful scenery, highly developed characters, .... Hollywood just did the better job imho  |
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Post by utility_singer on Jan 7, 2016 17:30:44 GMT
It is so interesting to me to see the progression from "Die Trapp-Familie" to the stage version of TSOM and then the film.
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Post by rippershipper on Jan 24, 2016 22:37:14 GMT
Finally watched this for the first time today. THAT CHRISTMAS TREE SCENE, THOUGH. I don't know what I would've done if Chris and Julie had a scene like that. I might explode from cuteness. I also really loved when their baby was crying and Maria's standing there like "She's so loud, she's going to be such a strong singer!" and Georg is looking at her like "Honey, I love you, but I've done this seven times and that child is just screaming, I promise."
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Post by blaueaugen on Jan 24, 2016 22:58:32 GMT
It was aaaaages ago I watched this but I can remember loving the Christmas tree scene, too! Although I do have some recollection of a sparkler that I felt was being held dangerously close to someone's face?? Was that during that scene?
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Post by utility_singer on Jan 25, 2016 12:47:25 GMT
It was aaaaages ago I watched this but I can remember loving the Christmas tree scene, too! Although I do have some recollection of a sparkler that I felt was being held dangerously close to someone's face?? Was that during that scene? I think so. But they had real candles on trees back then, too. I may have to adapt that scene to a story sometime. It really is amazing. |
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Post by augiesannie on Feb 2, 2016 18:57:52 GMT
It was aaaaages ago I watched this but I can remember loving the Christmas tree scene, too! Although I do have some recollection of a sparkler that I felt was being held dangerously close to someone's face?? Was that during that scene? I think so. But they had real candles on trees back then, too. I may have to adapt that scene to a story sometime. It really is amazing. Dooooo it. |
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Post by augiesannie on Feb 2, 2016 18:59:03 GMT
Finally watched this for the first time today. THAT CHRISTMAS TREE SCENE, THOUGH. I don't know what I would've done if Chris and Julie had a scene like that. I might explode from cuteness. I also really loved when their baby was crying and Maria's standing there like "She's so loud, she's going to be such a strong singer!" and Georg is looking at her like "Honey, I love you, but I've done this seven times and that child is just screaming, I promise." If I recall, the transition from the wedding to that baby was a little ..fast, wasn't it? |
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Post by augiesannie on Feb 2, 2016 19:00:18 GMT
Another thing that's sweet about the original movie (and the book) that we lose in "our" TSOM is the scene where she comes back and sobs, "they said I have to marry you," but she has nowhere to go but comfort in his arms. We don't get that, of course, because of Elsa and the gazebo. It could be fun to write an AU that makes that scene possible.
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Post by mucwriter on Feb 2, 2016 19:31:44 GMT
The captain comes to her room before and... kind of... proposes marriage. It's kind of cute, but Hans Holt is such a slimy actor (for lack of a better word) with that horrible Austrian nasal accent (I'm German, I don't care for this too much). And then she flees, telling him "I know where to get advice"... and after that, everything seems even faster than in TSOM. Just my two cents |
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Post by utility_singer on Feb 2, 2016 19:47:36 GMT
Another thing that's sweet about the original movie (and the book) that we lose in "our" TSOM is the scene where she comes back and sobs, "they said I have to marry you," but she has nowhere to go but comfort in his arms. We don't get that, of course, because of Elsa and the gazebo. It could be fun to write an AU that makes that scene possible. Writing an AU of the movie that's closer to the 'real' story has been on my mind for a long time, so it would include the Christmas tree scene AND this. The idea of her seeking comfort from him at that moment, combined with the chemistry we see between Julie and Chris onscreen? I think my computer might melt. |
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Post by augiesannie on Feb 2, 2016 20:04:11 GMT
Another thing that's sweet about the original movie (and the book) that we lose in "our" TSOM is the scene where she comes back and sobs, "they said I have to marry you," but she has nowhere to go but comfort in his arms. We don't get that, of course, because of Elsa and the gazebo. It could be fun to write an AU that makes that scene possible. Writing an AU of the movie that's closer to the 'real' story has been on my mind for a long time, so it would include the Christmas tree scene AND this. The idea of her seeking comfort from him at that moment, combined with the chemistry we see between Julie and Chris onscreen? I think my computer might melt. I'd love to read a story like that. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Feb 2, 2016 21:32:08 GMT
Do it augiesannie!
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Post by rippershipper on Feb 2, 2016 21:38:42 GMT
Finally watched this for the first time today. THAT CHRISTMAS TREE SCENE, THOUGH. I don't know what I would've done if Chris and Julie had a scene like that. I might explode from cuteness. I also really loved when their baby was crying and Maria's standing there like "She's so loud, she's going to be such a strong singer!" and Georg is looking at her like "Honey, I love you, but I've done this seven times and that child is just screaming, I promise." If I recall, the transition from the wedding to that baby was a little ..fast, wasn't it? Way too fast! But I suppose a honeymoon period would've been way too much to ask for back then. I would've liked a small transition though. Like in the real Maria's book. They get married and then there's a chapter about the family and holidays and coming together and THEN there's the chapter on the baby. I would love to read an AU that more closely reflects the real story! After re-reading Maria's book, I might write a cute one-shot about her time in the hospital. There's a hilarious story in there about how Georg keeps bringing her small animals to keep her company and the nurse is just not having it. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Feb 2, 2016 21:49:59 GMT
Welcome vw!!
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Post by utility_singer on Feb 2, 2016 21:52:33 GMT
Writing an AU of the movie that's closer to the 'real' story has been on my mind for a long time, so it would include the Christmas tree scene AND this. The idea of her seeking comfort from him at that moment, combined with the chemistry we see between Julie and Chris onscreen? I think my computer might melt. I'd love to read a story like that. Well I've been looking for a new idea. May as well take the plunge.... I'll let you know when the first chapter is done! lol |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Aug 10, 2017 11:27:42 GMT
I watched this (finally) yesterday.
Really enjoyed it. But some things just stuck out as odd to me and I feel the need to mention...
When the children are being introduced all their names are accurate except for Johanna, who was Rosemarie. This leaves me really confused. I'm no expert on the cheesy/kitschy German films in 50s thing mentioned on this board, but I don't see why Johanna was the one that needed to be changed (even if her name is only said once)
According to the subtitles, it says the movie begins in 1926. Yet when they're escaping there's only seven children (and the baby that's in all of 3 scenes) and they haven't aged more than a year or so, making me actually think they compressed the timeline like R&H and that it was meant to have started in '36.
Okay, I just had to get that out. I'm done.
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Post by andhereweare on Jan 25, 2018 17:21:00 GMT
Bringing this thread back up again, but having watched it on YouTube a few times what stands out in my head are two things: (1) Hearing the children play musical instruments is painful; and (2) Closing curtains somehow shuts off the rest of the house to hearing your conversation.
Snark aside, it's an interesting counterpoint to a certain other version...
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Post by augiesannie on Jan 27, 2018 22:55:35 GMT
Bringing this thread back up again, but having watched it on YouTube a few times what stands out in my head are two things: (1) Hearing the children play musical instruments is painful; and (2) Closing curtains somehow shuts off the rest of the house to hearing your conversation. Snark aside, it's an interesting counterpoint to a certain other version... So glad you brought this thread back. I really enjoyed it. And I actually did end up writing a story in which she collapses in his arms and says "they said I have to marry you" |
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Post by bloomandgrow on Mar 4, 2018 15:50:11 GMT
I loved the German film, not as much as TSOM obviously, but it was so charming in so many ways, and so interesting to see how many scenes were taken and transformed into TSOM. I thought the German actress who played Maria was adorable, though again, no-one can beat JA.
My favourite things:
I'm a real sucker for wedding scenes and I thought the one in German film was just beautiful. The processional song was a gorgeous uplifting chorale, but I have never been able to find what it is. I know it is called 'Gloria' but so many composers have written music called that. (Does any one know it?).
There is a sweet scene during the exchanging of rings where they squeeze each other's fingers tenderly in the midst of a solemn ceremony;
and immediately after, there's a beautifully staged shot with the seven children lined up behind their parents who have their heads bowed in prayer. I wish they had used that scene in TSOM.
Oh yeah, another favourite bit, was after they were married and the Captain confesses how jealous he feels because Maria loves all people (that is so in keeping with "she has a great capacity to love") and he feels lost in the crowd.
Another one: before they are engaged, the Captain storms into her room and to find out what the Princess said to her and tells her: "Don't even try to lie to me because you aren't any good at it." Too cute.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Mar 5, 2018 2:25:27 GMT
That last line you mentioned is awesome. I also really like the one he says about how trusting she is, that she can't lie and is nice to horrible people. Definitely our Maria. Even if it's not. You know what I mean.
It really is interesting how much of it came into TSOM, it's almost the missing link between Maria's memoir and TSOM.
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Post by bloomandgrow on Mar 5, 2018 4:56:42 GMT
You're right - it is the missing link between Maria's books and TSOM. It's so much closer to Maria's story. And yes, loved the lines about Maria being nice even to horrible people. Definitely our Maria.
The film also made me appreciate a few things about TSOM even more. Firstly and obviously, that CP was chosen to play the Captain; and secondly that the writer Ernest Lehman had the brilliant idea to transform the uptight, humourless character of Fr. Wassner into the witty adorable Max.
Have you seen the sequel? The Germans did a half-hearted follow-up called The von Trapps in America, or something. Geez, it was depressing. I wish I hadn't watched it.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Mar 6, 2018 2:26:51 GMT
No, I haven't. I really want to but haven't yet found it with subtitles. The English dubbed version is also on Youtube and about half an hour of Die Trapp Familie in Amerika is tacked on the end of that, so I watched that, but it's not quite the same.
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Post by chezlui on Nov 30, 2018 19:23:01 GMT
Fun fact: while I have never seen Sound of Music on German TV (until very recently, I didn’t even know they had it dubbed), I have watched this 50ties German version every year around Christmas (1st or 2nd Christmas Day) with my Grandma.
Wiki says the TSOM tanked in German speaking countries in 1965 because of the German Trapp Movie.
Which explains on why I never ever had heard of it until going to the US as a student. (Because we only had a few TV channels to chose from we watched whatever was on at 8.15pm.)
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 17, 2019 13:53:15 GMT
 If you click on the image it should come up the right way...which child do you think is peering disapprovingly in the background? |
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Post by ANeedlePullingThread on Jan 13, 2020 2:47:15 GMT
I just sat with my kid (she speaks German) and watched this on YouTube. I was torn between roaring with laughter and actually having the warm fuzzies. Once you’ve seen CP as the Captain, well, you just have to settle. Though the plot was more true to life I suppose, the difference between Hollywood and this made me giggle.
Points for his hair though.
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And as far as I can recall they only released a mashed up version of both films with subtitles in English on VHS. 
