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Post by augiesannie on Jul 28, 2013 11:15:57 GMT
One of my friends in the old FB group that died out, had shared a link to the original Die Trapp Familie movie with me - but it was in German, and I found it so frustrating to listen and not be able to understand. Now it's up with English subtitles! The original Maria sold the rights to the family's story to the producers of this film, who in turn sold the rights to Mary Martin and her husband, and the rest is history!
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Post by mie779 on Jul 28, 2013 12:42:36 GMT
oh great have been wanting to see this, also found it on youtube but no subtitles... I do know a bit German (it's mandatory in Danish schools, a pain to learn,) some still sticks in my brain and I could probably understand most of it... just would be a pain to watch it... yeah will now watch when I find some time for it...  |
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 28, 2013 20:21:57 GMT
What I love about this movie is that's so very 1950's and so very German, very much like the German/Austrian "Sissi" movies about the Austrian Empress Elisabeth (one of my favourite historical figures). In the 50's, lots of idyllic "Heimatfilme" (I wouldn't know the proper English word for that, but Heimat means homeland) were produced in Germany and Austria as a result of the war. Life (especially in the Bavarian and Austrian Alps) was idealized in an attempt to make people feel proud of their country again. In general these movies are not very realistic (e.g, the real Empress Elisabeth was highly intelligent and a feminist, but also clinical depressed and anorexic; her son the Crownprince committed suicide and Elisabeth herself was murdered, while in the "Sissi" movies her life is pictured in the most happy and idyllic way) but highly entertaining. Have fun watching everyone  . |
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Post by mie779 on Jul 28, 2013 20:36:35 GMT
okay just clicked the link and no english subtitles are on this clip.... hmmm what??? Now I'm sad  |
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 28, 2013 20:51:57 GMT
I see you're right. You could try to get the dvd dubbed in English on Amazon.com...not as good as the real thing but maybe an alternative for people who don't understand German? I see some second hand dvds are available from $ 16.44. I also checked out the German Amazon and it has the dvd but with German subtitles only.
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 28, 2013 20:53:57 GMT
Oh I see now that the movie they offer on Amazon.com is a VHS tape and not a dvd...
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 28, 2013 20:54:41 GMT
Darn, where did my post go? You just have to click at the bottom of the clip while you're in YouTube, like you would if you wanted to pause it or make it full screen, and there is a "cc" box for closed captioning -- mine let me select English.
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 28, 2013 20:55:43 GMT
PS this is definitely worth persevering at. There's a scene where her rival confronts Maria in the bedroom with the news that Georg is in love with her. And he really does say that he can't marry someone he's not in love with. It's not as unbearably sexy as it is coming from Our Man but it's still so sweet. The movie is posted in chunks on YouTube but once you set the language preference, I think it sticks.
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Post by mie779 on Jul 28, 2013 21:03:21 GMT
aha thanks... did NOT know that  will watch another time... it's getting rather late here in Denmark  |
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 28, 2013 21:03:57 GMT
I love how he cries "Sei doch bitte einen Moment still!!!!!" (Please be quiet!!) when the children keep talking through at the end of part 3. He really loses his temper for a bit. Very human . |
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Post by mie779 on Jul 31, 2013 19:12:05 GMT
have now seen it... interesting to see the "real" story and how different it is compared to TSOM... The acting could have been way better... but knowing it's from 1956 I guess that was how they made movies back then... Oh I love CP and JA way better one fun thing I noticed was right after we see the wedding, we cut to a scene with the new baby... okay... baby cries they give bottle and in the mean time they stand talking about some serious things.... just thought it to a rather odd way off feeding your baby... stick a bottle in the baby's mouth and we can talk.... sorry but just thought it to be funny... .... |
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 31, 2013 19:58:50 GMT
Oh, yes, I thought that was very funny. Not only because they cut right from the couple's first kiss to a BABY - no proposal, no wedding, no honeymoon, even TSOM gives us more than that! - but also because of the casual way they are feeding the baby while having a discussion. It's as though they were filling their car up with gasoline at a filling station!
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 31, 2013 20:52:16 GMT
Well, it's a German movie and from the 1950s, they are (were) a bit different that way...you can't really compare it with American productions. These movies were in general not very romantic (romantic yes, but no kissing etc). I'm not sure if you've ever seen "Sissi" with Romy Schneider or "Mayerling" with Christiane Horbiger or "Wien, Du Stadt meiner Traume" (Vienna, city of my dreams), some other famous movies from that era. They're all the same way, "Sissi" probably being the most romantic among them (at least there is a lovely wedding!) TSOM is timeless, these movies probably aren't, apart from the "Sissi" thrilogy (that also still has many fans), but they certainly give a nice insight in the era. And I love the old-fashioned way in which they speak, I'm especially fond of Hans Holt's lovely Viennese accent. Did you btw notice how they call him Captain Trapp and not Von Trapp? It's more authentic that way;). Although I have to admit I prefer Von Trapp.
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Post by augiesannie on Jul 31, 2013 21:02:30 GMT
honestly, I thought he was very charming! and that she was sweet.
given the overall wholesomeness of TSOM, I think we can agree that romance doesn't require a lot of kissing!
I am going to check out Sissi, you've got me interested!
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Post by brigittavt on Jul 31, 2013 21:37:08 GMT
I'm not sure if it's available with English subtitles, but it's worth to have a look! Sissi is among the most cheesiest movies you'll ever see, but lovely and so....Austrian. But remember that the on screen Sissi couldn't be more different from the real one, who was exemely unhappy (and who btw spelled her name Sisi, not Sissi), which makes it sometimes almost painful to watch. Something that's hard to believe when you see her running up and down the mountains (I guess that's were they got that from!). Running she did a lot later in real life, but for slightly different reasons (being anorextic and obsessed with sports)...I have a portrait of the real Empress in my house (well, not the real portrait, which is in the Hofburg, obviously) because Elisabeth (Sissi/Sisi being short for Elisabeth, as is Liesl) still inspires me despite everything. Yes, she had major issues, but she also was independent, a free spirit. And she reminds me of my childhood and the time when I lived in Vienna practically in her backyard. Oh well, just watch those movies first, you'll probably either hate them or love them! And then it'll so much fun to discuss them together. Oh yes, and in this thrilogy, Austria still had it's own ocean of course, being set in the time of the Austrian-Hungarian empire. Something our own Captain can only dream of!
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Post by brigittavt on Aug 1, 2013 19:08:34 GMT
Btw, there is a connection between Sissi and TSOM (apart from the fact they're both set in Austria); Romy Schneider who portrayed Sissi and Kym Karath both starred in the movie 'Good neighbor Sam' (1964), I think the only American movie Romy played in. I can't remember if they had any scenes together, I don't believe they did. Would be nice to know if Kym met her during filming (and if she still remembers her).
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Post by paula on Aug 3, 2013 2:19:12 GMT
Romy Schneider was also in Triple Cross with Christopher Plummer in 1967, and they had some HOT scenes! |
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Post by lemacd on Aug 3, 2013 3:03:38 GMT
oooh, i feel a new game coming oh. seven degrees of the sound of music. or christopher plummer. (google 'six degrees of kevin bacon if you don't know what i'm talking about). anyway...
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Post by brigittavt on Aug 3, 2013 8:11:12 GMT
I've seen Triple Cross many many years ago, so can't really remember anything from it. But fun to know Romy was in 2 movies with TSOM actors!
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 3, 2013 10:24:32 GMT
I checked out the Sissi/Romy movie, which doesn't appear to have English subtitles. But I must say, I thought the opening music sounded exactly like the opening music for Die Trapp Famllie, so there you go, another connection.
Agree with Paula that Triple Cross is a treat! I tried to fast-forward through Battle of Britain to find his scenes with Susannah York - that's what formed the basis for Paula's avatar, and for that hilariious/gorgeous photoshop that IndigoBlue created for us back on FB - haven't found the "good parts" yet.
Am busy thinking of other "n degrees" connections!
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Post by mie779 on Aug 3, 2013 11:47:33 GMT
oh remembered that I wanted to find "Triple Cross" somewhere online... must go search and save link for a rainy day or just an evening when I'm home alone... don't think my husband would understand all to much if I suddenly have this urge for old movies... *LOL* |
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 3, 2013 11:49:43 GMT
Triple Cross is fun because he plays such a rascal.
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Post by brigittavt on Aug 3, 2013 20:00:11 GMT
Great you checked out the Sissi movies! I agree with you on the opening, lots of these old German/Austrian movies have this bombastic opening music. I'm currently rewatching the Sissi movies (I have them on dvd), which I do about once a year and it's so much fun! In Holland the trilogy is broadcast every year around New Year's eve. Too bad they're not available with English subtitles. Oh I just thought of another TSOM/Sissi connection: Schloss Fuschl, which you see in the opening scene of TSOM, futures in Sissi as the childhood home of Empress Elisabeth. It's a very luxury hotel now. I've been there (not as a hotel guest though, way too expensive, but had a drink and ice cream on the terrace) and it's simply amazing!
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 6, 2013 14:28:20 GMT
I TOTALLY misspoke - there is a wedding scene in there - to make it up to you, here is a link to the chunk of the film that begins with the confrontation between the Captain and his fiancee. It will take you 8 minutes to get to the baby. Don't forget to turn on the cc to English. On the down side, Our Man could never have played the Captain this way. Moreover, the RM is a little severe. But I love the chance to see more of the childrens' reaction, and also to see more of the wedding. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fk30kA-v6o |
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Post by cass on Aug 12, 2013 1:54:54 GMT
Apparently my German is nowhere near as rusty as I thought -- I really enjoyed this! Yeah, the acting leaves something to be desired, but so do most acting jobs before the 1960's. There were some really good lines. And I don't know why people complain that Julie was too pretty for Maria -- Ruth Leuwerik is gorgeous!
I need a bit of time to process this, so I'll be back to add some thoughts later. But overall I thought it was charming and endearing, and I'd watch it again in a heartbeat. But can I just say that the poster's sisters did an incredible job translating the original dialogue. I had to turn the captions on for a while because of noise in the kitchen, and ended up leaving them on because they were so well-done. They really struck a balance between natural and accurate that is seldom seen (don't ever depend on the German translation of TSOM from English, it is truly horrible).
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Post by lisab1991 on Nov 8, 2013 17:59:38 GMT
Aah such a delightful movie! Yep, it's very German, very 1950-ish, very kitsch, like Sissi..By the way, the Sissi trilogy has its English version. The trilogy's named Sissi - Forever my love. There are two compilation parts on YouTube. Here's the Amazon item. Still, I cannot help but love this movie. From what I've "heard" on this board, it's quite similar to the real family story (from time to time).. Or even more accurate than TSOM. I must say, I find Ruth very lovely, and the captain quite handsome (though he'll never come close enough to CP!).. I like the bombastic processional, though I'd prefer the processional they used in TSOM any time. I also love their intimate moment at the altar - I miss that sweetness in TSOM. And am I the only one here fangirling about that little piece of exposed neck? Agh I know I'm overreacting, but I find it so.. I'm at a loss for words really *hides in corner* Imagine this shot during TSOM! Ugh I'd faint right away! |
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Post by utility_singer on Nov 8, 2013 20:20:06 GMT
Very, very sweet. I ended up going back to the first part and I'm watching them all!
There were a few moments---like when he bursts in on Maria in her slip---that would've been very interesting with Chris and Julie ;-)
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Post by lemacd on Nov 8, 2013 20:53:31 GMT
i thought the same thing... and the fanfic ideas just keep coming.
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Post by mie779 on Nov 9, 2013 10:29:41 GMT
Very, very sweet. I ended up going back to the first part and I'm watching them all! There were a few moments---like when he bursts in on Maria in her slip---that would've been very interesting with Chris and Julie ;-) ah yes that would be VERY interesting... |
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Post by utility_singer on Nov 9, 2013 13:13:13 GMT
omigosh the scene in part 3 of M & G talking by the Christmas tree is fanworthy even with these actors.
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will watch another time... it's getting rather late here in Denmark 
