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Post by augiesannie on Apr 15, 2015 22:12:11 GMT
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 16, 2015 1:13:09 GMT
Very interesting. Good find!
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Post by clarinetjamie on Apr 16, 2015 5:00:28 GMT
I like the last line, "In this case it's well worth it." Yes, yes it is.
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Post by cass on Apr 18, 2015 18:14:50 GMT
I'm trying to see the critique of the latter third of the movie from the reviewer's perspective, and while I can agree that maybe 20+ swastikas in the square and the wedding itself may have been a bit much, isn't the whole point of that back section of the film to shift gears anyway?
Not to put much stock in such a thing like this, but of all the things to criticize about the film, directorial decisions would honestly come dead last on my list. Then again, I'm quite the fan of Robert Wise. Maybe I'm still being oh, so naively mislead by the saccharine lovefest of R&H musicals, 17 years later. *eyeroll* Interesting perspective, to say the very least.
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Post by augiesannie on Apr 19, 2015 22:18:35 GMT
I had only heard negative reviews of CP's performance, so I liked that (I personally think he does a wonderful job). It just goes to show you how different things look in retrospect. Did you ever look at the list of Best Picture winners and wonder what people were thinking?
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 20, 2015 0:42:42 GMT
I had only heard negative reviews of CP's performance, so I liked that (I personally think he does a wonderful job). It just goes to show you how different things look in retrospect. Did you ever look at the list of Best Picture winners and wonder what people were thinking? YES. And sometimes actors, as well. Julie Christie in Darling, instead our darling Julie is TSOM? WTH? I've said before that Julie was right when she credited Chris for keeping the saccharine down. While Maria is the 'star', it is his character arc that drives the movie in many ways. In the hands of a lesser actor, who didn't work so hard, well. . . |
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Post by cass on Apr 20, 2015 1:30:27 GMT
Darling was a load of bull.
I tried so hard. I was so bored. What a horrible Best Actress choice. And what a disservice to Julie Christie, because I love her in other things I've seen. She's really, really good. Knocks it out of the park. But Darling? Thanks, but no thanks.
I'm among those that believes Julie was fully deserving of her Oscar for MP but rather wishes that it had been bestowed for TSOM instead if it had to be an either-or scenario as it seems to have played out. In my ideal world, of course she would have taken both (and for Victor/Victoria, as well), and she was brilliant beyond words as Mary P, but any number of women could have played the part and various interpretations would still ring true because there's so much to play with. Maria doesn't have that luxury because doing it wrong would throw off the entire balance the film sought to create. Julie nailed it into legendary status.
Alas, hindsight is 20/20...
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Post by clarinetjamie on Apr 20, 2015 4:02:28 GMT
I really don't understand why she didn't get the Oscar for best actress in TSOM, she really deserved it and lets see, which of those two movies is still adored by hundreds of thousands of fans new and old? Yeah it isn't "Darling." As far as CP goes, in my opinion there is no one out there who could have played the roll of the captain any better than he did. He brought so much more to the part and I really truly believe that he added a lot of character and depth to the captain that someone else probably wouldn't have. I think he was perfect for it and can't imagine anyone else playing that part.
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Post by cass on Apr 20, 2015 4:40:03 GMT
It came down to idiotic Academy Award panel politicking, as does everything in life. There was a lot of fuss about Julie getting two Oscars in a row, especially for being a rookie in Hollywood. I can concede Victor/Victoria only because Meryl Streep won out that year for Sophie's Choice, which is almost entirely impossible to compete with. A comedic/musical gender-bender doesn't quite match up with the seriousness of a WWII drama, no matter how complex and artfully crafted V/V was.
As for casting Chris, I refer back to my admiration for Robert Wise. I honestly believe that the only other man in the business of the era who had such a keen sense and eye for talent/fit of roles was Walt Disney himself. Wise knew immediately that Chris was worth pursuing, and made sure that said pursuit was not in vain. Precious few people look THAT good in naval blues while playing up a dichotomy of character traits to perfection. Nuff said.
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Post by sagaofjenny on Apr 20, 2015 5:00:43 GMT
I'm among those that believes Julie was fully deserving of her Oscar for MP but rather wishes that it had been bestowed for TSOM instead if it had to be an either-or scenario as it seems to have played out. In my ideal world, of course she would have taken both (and for Victor/Victoria, as well), and she was brilliant beyond words as Mary P, but any number of women could have played the part and various interpretations would still ring true because there's so much to play with. Maria doesn't have that luxury because doing it wrong would throw off the entire balance the film sought to create. Julie nailed it into legendary status. Alas, hindsight is 20/20... I completely agree with all of this. I mean, there's a reason the general public is incapable of differentiating Julie from the role. While everyone pretty much associates Mary Poppins with Julie, they don't think she's actually just like that. She played Maria a little too well, if there is such a thing. |
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Post by utility_singer on Apr 20, 2015 16:52:00 GMT
Since Julie has said Maria is the character that is most like herself, it isn't surprising. And now, knowing the parallels between her own childhood unhappiness and those of both the real Maria and the precious little background we have on her fictional counterpart, it isn't hard to see how and why that is the case.
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Post by sagaofjenny on Apr 20, 2015 16:56:58 GMT
I think it's one of those things where all of the character is in her but not all of her is in the character.
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Post by cass on Apr 20, 2015 17:43:33 GMT
I think it's one of those things where all of the character is in her but not all of her is in the character. Yes. Oh, yes. I cry to think of Julie without her wicked sense of humor and shameless naughty streak. But damn if Maria isn't the core essence of herself. And truthfully, more significantly than Julie acknowledging it, her kids have all said it again and again through the past 40-odd years that Maria is closest to who she is as a person. If your kids can chime in and say it with conviction amidst the many years of being unpopular by default of being the parent, then it's pretty obvious where things stand. |
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