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Post by augiesannie on Jun 10, 2015 0:57:12 GMT
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 10, 2015 1:25:18 GMT
So insightful and very well thought out! I never realized that about the Toby Reiser Quintet either. Interesting read.
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Post by utility_singer on Jun 10, 2015 2:46:42 GMT
It's an interesting article, but that isn't correct. The Toby Reiser quintet is heard playing behind Max and the children when Zeller confronts him at the festival venue. This screencap shows many more than five musicians at the party:  |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 10, 2015 6:23:16 GMT
Maybe that's why I didn't realize it, lol.
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jun 11, 2015 3:38:08 GMT
I'm still trying to work out exactly who's who from the screencap.
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Post by utility_singer on Jun 11, 2015 16:34:18 GMT
A quintet doesn't have a separate conductor, and I count 7 possibly 8 players in the screen cap.
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Post by sagaofjenny on Jun 11, 2015 18:07:05 GMT
Can I take this opportunity to say that conductor irritates the heck out of me?
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 11, 2015 18:42:21 GMT
Can I take this opportunity to say that conductor irritates the heck out of me? Lol, why is that? We only see him for a brief few seconds. That's a pretty long baton he's using. |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jun 12, 2015 3:19:22 GMT
I always thought he kinda looked like Franz...
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Post by sagaofjenny on Jun 12, 2015 4:26:26 GMT
Can I take this opportunity to say that conductor irritates the heck out of me? Lol, why is that? We only see him for a brief few seconds. That's a pretty long baton he's using. I don't know, he just looks so uncomfortable, and it seems like his pattern gets screwed up halfway through his little scene. Maybe I'm too nitpicky. Also, looks like that's his bow he's using; he's got a violin in his other hand. |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jun 12, 2015 6:11:42 GMT
So is he a conductor or a violinist? Or both?
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Post by utility_singer on Jun 12, 2015 11:31:33 GMT
Often small chamber ensembles will have the first violinist act as conductor, though they typically conduct as they play (as the Toby Reiser Quintet does when we see them rehearsing at the festival venue).
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 13, 2015 20:41:44 GMT
So is he a conductor or a violinist? Or both? He's both and he is conducting with his bow. The song is a waltz, waltzes are written in 3/4 time signature, but are conducted in one which is how he is conducting it. I guess I don't notice anything unusual in his conducting pattern. It looks pretty normal to me. He does turn around and looks at the dancers so this may cause him to look a little funny, but overall it seems like a pretty normal waltz pattern. |
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Post by augiesannie on Jun 14, 2015 19:40:40 GMT
I didn't really think they were the Toby Reiser quintet. Because I can count. I do agree that the conductor bears a scary resemblance to Franz - maybe another Nazi spy in the household? And I also think he annoys me because I get annoyed every time the film jumps over something I really wanted to see. I 'm all ready to dive into party preparation and there's that darn conductor. I feel that way about the little boy ringing the bells after the wedding, too.
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Post by indigoblue on Jun 17, 2015 23:28:53 GMT
I love watching those dancers (sign of my age - I can remember when I was a kid I had no time for them at all).
They just seem to be the epitome of elegance and - well, just having fun, in particular the couple shown in the screencap above catch my eye, where the lady wears a pink ballgown. Somehow these two seem to be having REAL fun - just look at their expressions! They seem to dance twice as fast as the others - do you think they are having an affair?! An on-set Georg and Maria?
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 18, 2015 2:43:33 GMT
If I were there I would be having fun. I Think the dance scene was just fun in general, even Julie somewhere mentions how much fun it was to do that scene.
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Post by augiesannie on Jun 19, 2015 0:34:25 GMT
I love watching those dancers (sign of my age - I can remember when I was a kid I had no time for them at all). They just seem to be the epitome of elegance and - well, just having fun, in particular the couple shown in the screencap above catch my eye, where the lady wears a pink ballgown. Somehow these two seem to be having REAL fun - just look at their expressions! They seem to dance twice as fast as the others - do you think they are having an affair?! An on-set Georg and Maria? It would be a good project to do a thorough viewing of the party scene and focus on the extras, not only on the dance floor but during So Long Farewell, and so on. utility_singer told me that people in those scenes stay in character - like when we see Georg chatting with his guests while Elsa approaches him for the waltz, they're not saying, "so what time do you think we'll finish today?" I always say I'm going to watch once and really study the extras but I always get distracted by the Laendler. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jun 19, 2015 7:32:46 GMT
That would be an interesting study for sure.
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