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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 25, 2015 21:28:24 GMT
I know that Georg is still wearing his wedding band, but his wife has been gone for a few years and he has gotten rid of everything else around him that reminds him of his late wife except his wedding band. It makes me wonder just how serious he was about possibly marrying Elsa and if his feelings for her were really that strong or was it just because she was there at the right time so to speak.
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Post by revcap on Sept 28, 2015 1:48:45 GMT
I can't tell how serious he was about marrying Elsa but based on the conversation between Max and Elsa, it seems that she didn't feel assured that he wanted to marry her..
Max: Have you made up G's mind yet? Do I hear wedding bells? Elsa: Pealing madly but not necessarily for me. ...let's just say I have a feeling I may be here on approval..
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 28, 2015 10:59:27 GMT
I think he still wears it while courting Elsa to show that he still hasn't given her his heart---marrying her would be for convenience, for companionship, etc. but not for love. I've always been curious why he's still wearing it in the gazebo, though. He should have removed it before he went after Maria.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 11:41:59 GMT
I think he still wears it while courting Elsa to show that he still hasn't given her his heart---marrying her would be for convenience, for companionship, etc. but not for love. I've always been curious why he's still wearing it in the gazebo, though. He should have removed it before he went after Maria. maybe he was in such a rush to get to that gazebo that he just didn't think about removing it. Also, if he'd been wearing the ring for the last decade, he might have almost forgotten that he was still wearing it (I mean i forget that i'm wearing my rings except when i take them off and THEN it feels strange).
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Post by thebeestings on Sept 28, 2015 12:50:29 GMT
I've often thought about the ring, why he still has it in the gazebo scene...but I agree with utility_singer, it would have been much simpler had he removed it. I always thought he left the ring on as a sort of talisman, a constant reminder of his wife but also a reminder of the pain it caused and his reasons for shutting himself off from everyone and everything. If he removed the ring it would be a signal to himself more than anyone else that he has moved on and is ready to open his heart again. Which we know he isn't until Maria comes along... It makes sense to me for him to keep the ring on around Elsa, she never inspired him to remove it. But with Maria, I'm going to just imagine that in the moments after his less than romantic proposal in the gazebo, he deftly slipped it into his pocket and gave our girl a more inspiring kiss than we got to see! And later that night he as he did that finger rubbing thing we all do when we take our rings off and feel the indent where it should be he would be ready to let go.
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Post by callumrogers7 on Sept 28, 2015 16:49:51 GMT
My take on it is that, after his wife dies, he creates an alternate universe for himself. He removes all traces of the happy life that he had with Agathe and uses 'the Captain' persona to run away from the reality of what's happened. He becomes angry, cold, distant, embittered, regimented, repressed and lives a robotic existence almost, devoid of emotion. For these reasons I think that removing his wedding ring would be a final act of acceptance that his wife was gone forever and it would stir up the feelings of grief and pain that he's tried so hard to hide from. Also, there is the possibility that he kept the ring on in the aftermath of his wife's death to ward off female attention and show that his heart still belonged to her. With Elsa, it wouldn't matter that he kept the ring on, because they seem more like friends than lovers. I agree with CharleyBec - it does seem more about convenience and companionship with that pairing. I hope my in-depth analysis isn't too boring. Zzzzzzz Sorry I dropped off myself there. I should be writing my assignments.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 28, 2015 17:26:46 GMT
I hope my in-depth analysis isn't too boring. Zzzzzzz Sorry I dropped off myself there. I should be writing my assignments. Not boring at all. I have an idea for something and all the comments have helped immensely. Thank you ladies.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 28, 2015 23:30:51 GMT
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 29, 2015 1:43:22 GMT
callumrogers7, you are not being boring, this is what we live for! clarinetjamie, great story. kudos to everyone for pointing out first, the inconsistency that G has gotten rid of everything except the ring and second, explaining that taking it off would be an even worse reminder. I do always get a chuckle out of his having that wedding ring on when he is caressing Maria's cheek, but he was probably in a hurry to get himself out there. i seem to recall that someone else wrote a story about G taking off the ring - it was one of you guys, I know.
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 29, 2015 1:52:08 GMT
I put it into one of my stories.
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Post by frakkinghack on Sept 29, 2015 1:55:27 GMT
Oh Lovely @clarinetjamie. Nice little one shot.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 29, 2015 4:50:31 GMT
Thank you ladies! My apologies Utility-singer, I didn't realize that you had written a piece like that. Again thanks for all the input, it helped a great deal.
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 29, 2015 11:16:04 GMT
Thank you ladies! My apologies Utility-singer, I didn't realize that you had written a piece like that. Again thanks for all the input, it helped a great deal. Oh, no! Don't be silly. It was just a single scene, in Feels Like Home, if memory serves. Maria later thanks him for removing it, saying she would never have asked him to. But that's why he loves her so ;-)
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 30, 2015 15:10:32 GMT
Maybe he has found it is the ONLY way to repel female attention? With a face like that...
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 30, 2015 23:15:29 GMT
Maybe he has found it is the ONLY way to repel female attention? With a face like that... You mean, like the opposite of guys who take off their rings to pretend they're single? Somehow I don't think it would matter with our man. It didn't put Elsa off.
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Post by augiesannie on Oct 3, 2015 20:41:42 GMT
Thank you ladies! My apologies Utility-singer, I didn't realize that you had written a piece like that. Again thanks for all the input, it helped a great deal. I know utility_singer agrees that we NEVER ding people for writing about an idea we've written about. Out-and-out stealing actual language or a very specific twist, maybe. But as far as I'm concerned, Georg's ring deserves multiple stories!
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 3, 2015 23:55:39 GMT
Thanks ladies! I love being a part of our small, but fun community.
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Post by patrickssong on Oct 4, 2015 9:35:38 GMT
Was a lovely story @clarinetjamie As for me and the wedding band, I think it just became a part of Georg, and given that perhaps it was not a true (from what we can gather) a 'love match' with Elsa, so much so that to remove it didn't really come into consideration. It took true love for him to begin again. Argh that sounds so soppy...
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 4, 2015 16:11:35 GMT
Thank you Paticksong, glad you liked it.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 10, 2022 21:58:59 GMT
Have you ever noticed that Elsa is wearing a ring on her right hand ring finger? I originally noticed this on the balcony and thought it must have been an engagement ring from Georg, but she has it on when she arrives at the villa. Is this from her first marriage? She doesn't seem as brokenhearted as Georg does over the loss of her spouse (She laughs at Max's joke about her being left with a terrible fortune), so I'm not sure she is wearing it just to remember him. Is it just a fancy ring and has no significance to marriage? And no, I did not bring this up just to upload a riding crop picture. Attachments:
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Post by augiesannie on Mar 12, 2022 21:07:36 GMT
She has the same ring on when she is playing ball with the children, a point at which we learn moments later that they are engaged, so perhaps it's only decorative. Note that in the scene where G announces the engagement to the children, he is still wearing his old wedding ring, which made me go look at the gazebo when he is STILL wearing it! I did not take the time to confirm that he at least is wearing a different ring upon their return from Paris.
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Post by missisa on Mar 13, 2022 21:00:38 GMT
sorry for the stupid thing I'm about to say. as far as i'm concerned that hand with the wedding ring is so sexy he can leave it on forever. Sorry Elsa, sorry Maria 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by galan on Mar 13, 2022 21:55:56 GMT
Personally, I don't find it strange. (Also have not checked if he has a different wedding band after they return, but it would probably be difficult to tell.) Just because you learn to love someone new doesn't mean you stop loving the person you lost. Maybe that's my rogue and rare romantic, lol.
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Post by missisa on Mar 14, 2022 13:59:24 GMT
Personally, I don't find it strange. (Also have not checked if he has a different wedding band after they return, but it would probably be difficult to tell.) Just because you learn to love someone new doesn't mean you stop loving the person you lost. Maybe that's my rogue and rare romantic, lol. I AGREE!
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Post by augiesannie on Mar 14, 2022 15:59:49 GMT
Personally, I don't find it strange. (Also have not checked if he has a different wedding band after they return, but it would probably be difficult to tell.) Just because you learn to love someone new doesn't mean you stop loving the person you lost. Maybe that's my rogue and rare romantic, lol. I AGREE! of course. and in THIS case, since Georg hardly could have imagined he was going to end the day proposing to Maria in the gazebo when he - what? got dressed in the morning? changed for dinner? - I will agree with you that it is not strange that he's still wearing the old ring - earlier in the day, wearing his old wedding ring even though he has gotten himself engaged to Elsa, would have still made sense. I'm just saying that from that point on, if he is giving his heart to Maria, it is time to gently set the old ring aside. I think there are stories about when he finally does this.
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Post by galan on Mar 14, 2022 16:37:36 GMT
of course. and in THIS case, since Georg hardly could have imagined he was going to end the day proposing to Maria in the gazebo when he - what? got dressed in the morning? changed for dinner? - I will agree with you that it is not strange that he's still wearing the old ring - earlier in the day, wearing his old wedding ring even though he has gotten himself engaged to Elsa, would have still made sense. I'm just saying that from that point on, if he is giving his heart to Maria, it is time to gently set the old ring aside. I think there are stories about when he finally does this. I concur. Loving someone who is in the past while loving the person in the present and living in the present, learning how to balance all of that AND show it to the person you love now. Just, the moments presented aren't conducive to showing that shift--straight from the gazebo, which is something he couldn't have quite expected that morning, to the wedding, where that would be a little more inappropriate.
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Post by missisa on Mar 14, 2022 21:17:16 GMT
Jeez... 🥲🥺
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 16, 2022 15:05:59 GMT
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 24, 2022 19:41:53 GMT
I've looked at many screencaps. You get a pretty good look at his hands during the first dinner and then again on the driveway after the honeymoon. It is just a gold band, so impossible to tell if it is different or not. I kind of like the idea of him still wearing his old wedding ring while engaged to Elsa, but taking it off once he decides to give his heart to Maria (so, gazebo scene). It would have been a nice subtle touch for the movie. Though, in real life, people who don't ever take their rings off, don't even realize they are wearing them. In the movie, it appears that he left the balcony, headed straight for the gazebo, and hoped Maria would still be there to talk to. He didn't think long enough to come up with a conversation starter, let alone remember to take off a ring he has had on for 20 years.
I wonder if they talked about if he should take it off any point this during filming.
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 25, 2022 22:24:39 GMT
So, if he took it off on the way to the gazebo (in anticipation of him and Maria getting it on), what would have happened if he had completely misjudged her feelings and she had rejected him? Put it back on again afterwards, on the way back?
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