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Post by revcap on Oct 15, 2015 0:34:32 GMT
I just realized that the music used in the Landler scene is a slowed-down version of "The Lonely Goatherd".  Never noticed that until now.. |
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Post by lemacd on Oct 15, 2015 2:03:43 GMT
yup.
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Oct 15, 2015 4:13:56 GMT
I just realized that the music used in the Landler scene is a slowed-down version of "The Lonely Goatherd". Never noticed that until now.. Yes, it is indeed! I read that in the trivia section of the TSOM on IMDB a number of years ago. The Lonely Goatherd is in 4/4 time I believe and the Laendler uses the same melody but is arranged in 3/4 time. Also, if you listen to "Prelude and the Sound of Music" (the full-length version from the movie), at the beginning, you can hear some fragments of My Favorite Things in the piccolo as well as The Sound of Music. You'll know what I mean when you listen to it. I think the background music used in the escape/cemetery scene (found in the full-length soundtrack) includes fragments of So Long, Farewell in the minor key. It's played by either the clarinets or strings...I don't remember. My inner classical music band nerd is slowly taking over me... |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 15, 2015 4:48:39 GMT
Yes it is So Long Farewell in the escape scene, close resonant brass sounds in a minor key made to sound like car horns.
Rogers and Hammerstein's musical genious coming out big time in how they altered pieces to make them sound completely different while keeping the main theme the same. You'll also notice that there is a similar running base theme in both So Long Farewell and I've Got Confidence.
Beautifully written score for the play and the movie.
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Oct 15, 2015 5:17:02 GMT
Yes it is So Long Farewell in the escape scene, close resonant brass sounds in a minor key made to sound like car horns. Rogers and Hammerstein's musical genious coming out big time in how they altered pieces to make them sound completely different while keeping the main theme the same. You'll also notice that there is a similar running base theme in both So Long Farewell and I've Got Confidence. Beautifully written score for the play and the movie. Oh yes that too. But the part that I meant was in the abbey cemetery where the Reverend Mother leads the family into the gated area. You can hear either clarinets or strings playing the melody of "there's a sad sort of clanging in the clock..." in the minor key. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Typing this from bed when I should be sleeping now! The track is called "Escape" on the full length soundtrack. |
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Post by sagaofjenny on Oct 15, 2015 5:27:57 GMT
You'll also notice that the melody for the beginning of "I Have Confidence" is just slightly reminiscent of the lines from "The Sound of Music" which didn't make it into the film.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 15, 2015 5:32:09 GMT
Yes it is So Long Farewell in the escape scene, close resonant brass sounds in a minor key made to sound like car horns. Rogers and Hammerstein's musical genious coming out big time in how they altered pieces to make them sound completely different while keeping the main theme the same. You'll also notice that there is a similar running base theme in both So Long Farewell and I've Got Confidence. Beautifully written score for the play and the movie. Oh yes that too. But the part that I meant was in the abbey cemetery where the Reverend Mother leads the family into the gated area. You can hear either clarinets or strings playing the melody of "there's a sad sort of clanging in the clock..." in the minor key. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Typing this from bed when I should be sleeping now! The track is called "Escape" on the full length soundtrack. I'll have to go back and listen to it. I'll be able to tell you if it's a clarinet or not.  |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Oct 15, 2015 10:34:56 GMT
^the track is either called Escape or Nuns and Nazis. I don't remember exactly. If I had time, I would have posted a YouTube audio clip of it.
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Post by utility_singer on Oct 15, 2015 15:26:45 GMT
Gosh, take a couple of hours to clean and you guys have this awesome thread going.
R & H were genius at using their melodies throughout different parts of the score and Irwin Kostal's brilliant arrangements enhance their writing beautifully.
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Post by sagaofjenny on Oct 15, 2015 17:03:15 GMT
Also I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but Edelweiss, the wedding processional, and How Can Love Survive were all played by the orchestra at the party.
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Post by augiesannie on Oct 15, 2015 21:14:07 GMT
Also I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but Edelweiss, the wedding processional, and How Can Love Survive were all played by the orchestra at the party. For a moment there I thought you were suggesting that the wedding processional WAS How Can Love Survive. Which would be funny. |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Oct 15, 2015 21:28:44 GMT
Also I'm sure this has been pointed out before, but Edelweiss, the wedding processional, and How Can Love Survive were all played by the orchestra at the party. And Grand Waltz=My Favorite Things |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Oct 16, 2015 1:00:57 GMT
So many things I need to keep my eye (re: ear) out for when I next watch it
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 18, 2015 23:11:51 GMT
In the background music during the gazebo scene, there are lots of snippets from other songs, all melded into one another (sorry, forgotten exactly which ones!)
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Post by sagaofjenny on Oct 18, 2015 23:32:19 GMT
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 19, 2015 23:04:34 GMT
Dreamy stuff -thanks!
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Post by clarinetjamie on Oct 21, 2015 4:46:14 GMT
^the track is either called Escape or Nuns and Nazis. I don't remember exactly. If I had time, I would have posted a YouTube audio clip of it. I listened to it on the movie and the So Long Farewell part is mostly brass and high woodwinds, flute and clarinet with a timpani as well. When the family is going across the cemetery the background music is My Favorite things and the main theme is being played by cellos which gives it a more richer, darker tone. I love discussing movie scores and how instrumentation plays a key role in setting the tambour for certain scenes. |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Oct 22, 2015 1:05:42 GMT
^the track is either called Escape or Nuns and Nazis. I don't remember exactly. If I had time, I would have posted a YouTube audio clip of it. I listened to it on the movie and the So Long Farewell part is mostly brass and high woodwinds, flute and clarinet with a timpani as well. When the family is going across the cemetery the background music is My Favorite things and the main theme is being played by cellos which gives it a more richer, darker tone. I love discussing movie scores and how instrumentation plays a key role in setting the tambour for certain scenes. Finally got a hold of the video. Whoever posted this called it "The Chase" but it's actually "Nuns and Nazis". I'm talking about 0:30-0:42. No need to skip to that spot because I already pre-set the video so that it'll start at 30 seconds. You can hear "There's a sad sort of clanging in the clock on the hall" in the minor key. But yes, I do hear the brass, high woodwinds, and crash cymbals in the main theme of So Long, Farewell. There's also a bit of My Favorite Things (as you said) and Edelweiss. Great musical score. Bravo Irwin Kostal! As utility_singer mentioned before, Rodgers and Hammerstein are geniuses. I just added songs from Carousel and The King and I on my iPod and have been listening to them during my bus commute. I appreciate the music more if I close my eyes as if I'm "savouring" the music. And you know what I noticed about R&H's music? I'm gonna start using some musical theory jargon, so my apologies if I confuse you: -their songs all have symmetrical phrases -the musical form (or architecture/structure) is predictable too...a lot of their songs take ternary form (A-B-A) -their composing style reminds me of Mozart--symmetrical phrases, charming melodies Richard Rodgers is one of the best composers of the 20th century, hands down. |
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Post by indigoblue on Oct 22, 2015 10:16:01 GMT
Love this - fascinating - it always interests me to know why these songs are so memorable.
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Post by missisa on Jul 6, 2022 17:08:55 GMT
I just realized that the music used in the Landler scene is a slowed-down version of "The Lonely Goatherd". Never noticed that until now.. I'm dead!!! 😲😲😲 |
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