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Post by augiesannie on Aug 24, 2013 18:06:43 GMT
The other day, someone remarked that she wished she could see Georg's face when Maria is delivering her lines just after she learns he's engaged to Elsa. Of course, they shot multiple angles, but we see what Robert Wise wanted us to see. Not that I'm complaining, but there are a few shots I've always wished I could see.
For example -- G tells her, "you can't marry someone when you're in love with someone else," and then there's a close up of her reaction, which I totally get (although I hate that little zingy musical prompt). But I'd like to keep watching his face, too, before the next shot when they kiss.
This is kind of a complicated question, but I thought I'd put it out there: are there moments in the film when you feel like saying, "wait! I want to see more of that!"
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Post by lemacd on Aug 25, 2013 0:25:39 GMT
hmm... you know, i understand the backstory on why the gazebo scene was shot in the dark/silhouette but i do wish there had been some kind of light on their faces for pretty much the reason you said.
i wish there was a scene when the captain found the note.
and yes, i would have loved to seen G's face when M congratulates him on his engagement.
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 25, 2013 0:29:37 GMT
I'm sorry they cut the post-Edelweiss shots where M and G are each, separately, gazing out the window, lost in thought. Of course, then I'd have to give up my stubbornly held view that G doesn't realize how he feels about her until later. Maybe they will find those in the archives and release them for the 50th anniversary. We can only hope.
Many people say they would like to see the scene where they tell the children they're getting married, I guess I agree.
I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of what goes on post-rowboat pre-Edelweiss. Like how does life change for them after the rowboat night? We get a feeling of that from the night with the puppet show and Edelweiss, but not a lot.
I'd have liked to see a little more of the wedding.
Huh. Now we know why I love fanfic!
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Post by lemacd on Aug 25, 2013 0:36:47 GMT
you named some great ones... yes, some more wedding would have been great. like a kiss at the altar, hello.
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Post by mie779 on Aug 25, 2013 11:37:21 GMT
As already mentioned... I would also love to see more of their wedding AND honeymoon... just one tiny shot of them standing in front of the Eiffel tower... had that been too much to ask ?
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 26, 2013 23:13:31 GMT
The deleted scene where they are dreaming of each other (except I wouldn't get anything else done).
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Post by tranquillity on Aug 27, 2013 20:09:01 GMT
Yay, good topic.
Of course, I'd love to see the first morning after the gazebo evening: the moment when their eyes meet first. And as many romantic glimpses in their life as possible. We do not even see any close-up about the wedding... But I'm also curious to see their first discussions after the Captain is asking for her forgiveness. Or the captain in his study, reading that awful telegram from Berlin. Or when he hears Maria arriving back from the Abbey.
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 27, 2013 23:05:02 GMT
Yes, all of those! Also I am curious about how Georg and Elsa's dinner conversation (or lack of it) went, pre-balcony scene.
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Post by tranquillity on Aug 28, 2013 19:26:35 GMT
Hehe, now that would be great to see, Indigoblue. I've always been wondering if Maria was there or not. Maybe she had just dined with the children beforehand, if she dined at all ...
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 29, 2013 0:19:28 GMT
I suppose the most straightforward thing is to assume that they all ate together and that it was very awkward (we know G was very quiet). That's how I wrote it my first time, and yes, there was lots of fun to be had when M&G's eyes met, and lots of tension between E&G, and so on. But in some stories I've read, they don't eat together, which not only might be more realistic, but stretches things out in a deliciously tense way. In the story I'm writing now, I might have them not eat together, and then leave an extra day for some more tension to build ... Whoops, don't want to give too much away.
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Post by louisavontrapp on Aug 31, 2013 10:00:36 GMT
yes. I want to see the deleted scene. I hope they'll include it in the 50th anniversary. I want to see how M and G told the children about about their relationship, Elsa's lovelife after Georg, more of the wedding, and a scene of the whole family after a year of they're escape (with the newest member of the family - M and G's baby). That would be awesome.
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Post by lemacd on Aug 31, 2013 18:02:19 GMT
i agree with augiesannie. if he was that quiet during a dinner for two, i think the conversation would have happened then. i suppose elsa could have spent mealtime trying to pretend she didn't notice, but she was awfully lighthearted when she came to the balcony so no... i am sure they whole gang tore a pheasant together.
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Post by lemacd on Aug 31, 2013 22:38:31 GMT
new thread made me think of one that i've often wondered about... how about the conversation in the car as they are "escorted" to the music festival? I'm sure they hatched the plan then, but I would throw in a couple "Mother, Friedrich's feet are hogging up the floor." or "i feel like a sardine!" "Oh, Kurt, really. Someone crack a window, please?!"
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 31, 2013 22:53:00 GMT
Tore a pheasant? I'm afraid I'm too lower-class to get that reference.
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Post by lemacd on Aug 31, 2013 23:38:08 GMT
sorry. i forget how beneath me everyone else is and just assume they speak my language. it means partake of a meal. i'll try to remember and be more sensitive. </snark off>
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Post by augiesannie on Aug 31, 2013 23:47:24 GMT
Oh. Around here, we just pile the food on the table and plunge in, snouts first.
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Post by indigoblue on Aug 31, 2013 23:54:19 GMT
Not sure what the baroness would make of that?
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Post by lemacd on Sept 1, 2013 0:43:36 GMT
oh, augiesannie... i hope you know i was just kidding. one meal with my boys and any notion that i could be an authority on table manners would be instantly put to rest. seriously lucky that i get them to sit in actual chairs is a minor miracle.
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 1, 2013 0:55:12 GMT
yes, I knew you were kidding. I could use a laugh tonight!
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Post by lemacd on Sept 1, 2013 1:03:37 GMT
i'm sure... i'm not going to try and be deep. just know i'm thinking of you.
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Sept 16, 2015 1:04:29 GMT
I was going to start a new thread about "Scenes that were not depicted", but first, I dug really deep to see if such a thread existed--and it does! Now that this is out of the vault, maybe we can get this thread rolling again!
Scenes I wished were depicted:
1) The announcement of the Captain and Maria's engagement. Ever since I was a kid, I was longing to see a scene where the Captain and Maria announce their engagement to the children. I always felt that there was something missing in between the gazebo and wedding scenes because the two events happened so quickly. We, the audience, needed a smooth transition in order to be eased into the wedding scene. Think about it, we went from the Captain and Maria professing their love for each other (not to mention Maria's first kiss) to the wedding. I was so bummed that there was never a scene depicting the announcement of their engagement to the children. I have been so obsessed with this non-existent scene that I imagined exactly how it would play out. I even wrote out the lines for this imaginary scene but am too chicken to share it :S
2) An extended wedding scene. As a kid, I was disappointed that we didn't get to see the rest of the ceremony, including the Captain and Maria exchanging their vows. I also wanted to see them kiss at the end of the ceremony but when I think about it now, I'm not sure if a bride and groom kissed at the end of their wedding ceremony, especially in the Catholic Church during that time period. Can anyone confirm this? I always felt a bit empty how there was no dialogue in that scene.
3) Everything that happened after the von Trapps' escape over the mountains and more screen time showing the von Trapps bonding with their new mother. Okay, I know this isn't a scene, but when I was a child, my jaw dropped every single time the credits began to roll. I would ask myself, "That's it?! But isn't there more?? You’re not going to leave me hanging there, aren’t you?" I would be in denial at times, not wanting to believe that that was really the end of the movie. I even wondered about the possibility of an extra scene hidden somewhere after the credits because the film did not seem entirely complete to me. Pardon me with my strange desires…I was a child then.
Did/does anyone else feel the same way?
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Post by utility_singer on Sept 16, 2015 2:13:26 GMT
Oooh! Fun! 1) SHARE. I mean it. I've always wished for more between the kiss and the wedding, but that's what we're all here for, right? To fill in all those blanks.
2) Christian tradition holds the kiss indicates an exchange/bonding of souls; going back to Roman times the kiss was the contract and sealed the deal ('sealed with a kiss')
3)I never really thought about it much. I am much more intrigued by the romance of M & G than anything involving the children; and the 'after' other than the honeymoon, isn't something I spent too much time on.
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Sept 16, 2015 3:12:50 GMT
1) :/ okay...but maybe a bit later. The more I read it, the more self-conscious I feel about posting it. It's the same feeling that I had as a kid where I never wanted to show any of my drawings or stories to anyone. Not that it was anything profane 2) Hmm..interesting. I'm only asking this because during the weeks before Prince William and Kate's wedding, it was confirmed that they weren't going to kiss at the altar. I read somewhere in a news article that, traditionally, in the Anglican Church, the bride and groom don't kiss at the end of the wedding ceremony, so W&K decided to keep with that tradition. I thought it also applied to the Catholic Church. 3) I still love the romance between M&G. However, it's the love between M, G, and the children that gives me the warm fuzzies ^.^ especially during the post-honeymoon family reunion outside of the villa and during the festival scene. Looove the way he looks at her and holds her with the children around them during Edelweiss ^I know this is from So Long, Farewell, but you know what I mean, right?! *melting in pure joy*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 4:20:00 GMT
I was going to start a new thread about "Scenes that were not depicted", but first, I dug really deep to see if such a thread existed--and it does! Now that this is out of the vault, maybe we can get this thread rolling again! Scenes I wished were depicted: 1) The announcement of the Captain and Maria's engagement. Ever since I was a kid, I was longing to see a scene where the Captain and Maria announce their engagement to the children. I always felt that there was something missing in between the gazebo and wedding scenes because the two events happened so quickly. We, the audience, needed a smooth transition in order to be eased into the wedding scene. Think about it, we went from the Captain and Maria professing their love for each other (not to mention Maria's first kiss) to the wedding. I was so bummed that there was never a scene depicting the announcement of their engagement to the children. I have been so obsessed with this non-existent scene that I imagined exactly how it would play out. I even wrote out the lines for this imaginary scene but am too chicken to share it :S 2) An extended wedding scene. As a kid, I was disappointed that we didn't get to see the rest of the ceremony, including the Captain and Maria exchanging their vows. I also wanted to see them kiss at the end of the ceremony but when I think about it now, I'm not sure if a bride and groom kissed at the end of their wedding ceremony, especially in the Catholic Church during that time period. Can anyone confirm this? I always felt a bit empty how there was no dialogue in that scene. 3) Everything that happened after the von Trapps' escape over the mountains and more screen time showing the von Trapps bonding with their new mother. Okay, I know this isn't a scene, but when I was a child, my jaw dropped every single time the credits began to roll. I would ask myself, "That's it?! But isn't there more?? You’re not going to leave me hanging there, aren’t you?" I would be in denial at times, not wanting to believe that that was really the end of the movie. I even wondered about the possibility of an extra scene hidden somewhere after the credits because the film did not seem entirely complete to me. Pardon me with my strange desires…I was a child then. Did/does anyone else feel the same way? HA! I know exactly how you feel - hence the reason for writing fan fiction! Firstly, please share your little scene. You are amongst friends. We're all nice and very encouraging! No idea about the kissing during the wedding but i, for one< would have loved to see for kisses between Maria and Georg. As for what happened at the end of the film? Well I've written my take on it in my story "As Long As We're Together." Go and read it if you haven't already!
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Post by paula on Sept 16, 2015 5:14:49 GMT
I'd love to see a shirtless Christopher Plummer during the honeymoon! (Did anybody expect me to say anything else?)
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 16, 2015 5:36:24 GMT
There are really only 3 things I wanted to see added and they have all been mentioned already. A telling of the kids about their engagement, a kiss at the wedding, and a dinner scene after Maria comes back.
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 16, 2015 17:09:27 GMT
I'd love to see a shirtless Christopher Plummer during the honeymoon! (Did anybody expect me to say anything else?)
Answer to Part 1: Yes. Answer to Part 2: Not in a million years, Paula. (We've known each other a long time)
The other scenes I'd like to see are: the Captain in his study when he realises Maria is on the terrace, having returned from the abbey - what does he do, how long does he wait, thinking what to do? He must have spent some time looking out of the window at her; what was his expression?
And similarly, when he finds the note - is he upset? Where does he put it? Does he show it to Elsa? Frau Schmidt? I have a feeling that Frau Schmidt has worked for the von Trapps since Georg was a boy, so she is a sort of mother-figure to him; maybe, under the guise of telling her Maria has gone (for catering/nannying purposes), he is telling someone who might provide some sympathy and comfort (unlike the baroness). Actually, there aren't many people Georg can tell, as he would know the children would be upset (so he doesn't - and they are duly very upset when he spills the beans), Elsa would be crowing, Max - delighted, etc. Oh lovely food for thought!
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Post by lemacd on Sept 16, 2015 18:24:31 GMT
I was going to start a new thread about "Scenes that were not depicted", but first, I dug really deep to see if such a thread existed--and it does! Now that this is out of the vault, maybe we can get this thread rolling again! Scenes I wished were depicted: 1) The announcement of the Captain and Maria's engagement. Ever since I was a kid, I was longing to see a scene where the Captain and Maria announce their engagement to the children. I always felt that there was something missing in between the gazebo and wedding scenes because the two events happened so quickly. We, the audience, needed a smooth transition in order to be eased into the wedding scene. Think about it, we went from the Captain and Maria professing their love for each other (not to mention Maria's first kiss) to the wedding. I was so bummed that there was never a scene depicting the announcement of their engagement to the children. I have been so obsessed with this non-existent scene that I imagined exactly how it would play out. I even wrote out the lines for this imaginary scene but am too chicken to share it :S 2) An extended wedding scene. As a kid, I was disappointed that we didn't get to see the rest of the ceremony, including the Captain and Maria exchanging their vows. I also wanted to see them kiss at the end of the ceremony but when I think about it now, I'm not sure if a bride and groom kissed at the end of their wedding ceremony, especially in the Catholic Church during that time period. Can anyone confirm this? I always felt a bit empty how there was no dialogue in that scene. 3) Everything that happened after the von Trapps' escape over the mountains and more screen time showing the von Trapps bonding with their new mother. Okay, I know this isn't a scene, but when I was a child, my jaw dropped every single time the credits began to roll. I would ask myself, "That's it?! But isn't there more?? You’re not going to leave me hanging there, aren’t you?" I would be in denial at times, not wanting to believe that that was really the end of the movie. I even wondered about the possibility of an extra scene hidden somewhere after the credits because the film did not seem entirely complete to me. Pardon me with my strange desires…I was a child then. Did/does anyone else feel the same way? #3 is the reason I started writing fan fiction when I was about 12 years old.
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Post by lemacd on Sept 16, 2015 18:26:13 GMT
oh, augiesannie... i hope you know i was just kidding. one meal with my boys and any notion that i could be an authority on table manners would be instantly put to rest. seriously lucky that i get them to sit in actual chairs is a minor miracle. Who knew when I first posted this that we'd actually test this. If memory serves, the boys behaved. Then again I have a sucky sucky memory.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Sept 16, 2015 18:33:46 GMT
Ok, yes I have to admit I would like to have seen a scene where he finds the note.
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