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Post by UnusualCliche on Nov 17, 2014 2:59:55 GMT
No, I don't mean she did it vindictively, or even consciously. But she DID go back intending to tell him of her feelings, and was blindsided. Am I the only one who sometimes wishes Maria did have just a little bit of malice when putting that dress on? Just... ok, sorry that would be sinful and out of character I know... but, just a little? No? Sorry  On a different note, I agree with what most of you said about her growing more conscious of her style as the film develops, after suppressing it for a while when she thought she'd be a nun. (And I don't mean it in the sense that nuns are disconnected from the world at all, just that she made an effort to not be vain and not think of herself as attractive because she wouldn't want that sort of attention from men anyway.) Oh, and I really like the dress she's wearing when she falls into the lake, though for some reason my favourite dress has alway been the party one. I know, shame on me, it isn't the blue dress... *hides*. Hey, maybe I'm the one with no fashion sense...  |
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Post by indigoblue on Nov 17, 2014 22:52:07 GMT
Yes, I think she may well have put the blue dress on as a 'last chance option' - hey, we're not all saints, even if we try to be!
Also, I think she must have felt as though she had 'burned her boats' with the RM at the Abbey by admitting to having fallen in love, and then she felt rejected at the prospect of the Captain getting engaged. This must have left her thinking she only had one option left, to wear her most flattering outfit (particularly when she didn't have many to choose from).
Actually I think she knew from the way he looked at her on the terrace that he still had eyes for her, so she just thought she had nothing to lose by wearing it, and to look stunning in the process made her feel a little happier.
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 24, 2014 2:05:37 GMT
I didn't know the wedding dress was damaged! I do think we posted stuff about the other costume auctions elswhere (on the costumes section?). Also, I'im not that fond of the brown dress; I realize that it was genius to make the costumes timeless, but it looks kind of drab to me. And I don't quite get all the stories that emphasize how revealing it was when it was wet (although I myself have written about that) because it's not really that revealing!
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Post by sagaofjenny on Dec 24, 2014 2:37:38 GMT
Yeah, it's really sad about the wedding gown. Still would love to have it.I guess it makes sense, if we go with the theory that her fashion improves over time, that the Do Re Mi dress would be one of the more drab ones. I've always assumed it was one of the very first she made, since it's the first we see her in other than her habit or The One The Poor Didn't Want. As for the lake dress, how wet it is depends on when you look at it. We all know about how they had to shoot in two different locations for all those backyard scenes and how they had to keep "watering" Julie, so sometimes she's a little more drenched than others. I think I've also read somewhere (not sure where, and it honestly could have been another thread here) that it was much more revealing IRL than on film. Maybe Georg saw something we couldn't? 
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 24, 2014 2:40:19 GMT
Yeah, it's really sad about the wedding gown. Still would love to have it.I guess it makes sense, if we go with the theory that her fashion improves over time, that the Do Re Mi dress would be one of the more drab ones. I've always assumed it was one of the very first she made, since it's the first we see her in other than her habit or The One The Poor Didn't Want. As for the lake dress, how wet it is depends on when you look at it. We all know about how they had to shoot in two different locations for all those backyard scenes and how they had to keep "watering" Julie, so sometimes she's a little more drenched than others. I think I've also read somewhere (not sure where, and it honestly could have been another thread here) that it was much more revealing IRL than on film. Maybe Georg saw something we couldn't? thanks for keeping the legend alive! |
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Post by utility_singer on Dec 24, 2014 2:47:08 GMT
LOL the only truly revealing part was the underblouse, which in some still photos is almost sheer when soaking wet.
Also, I like the striped dress she is wearing when they are riding through Salzburg in the carriage, and she's using the crop (!) to conduct the children It is so well put-together, and much prettier than the brown dress.
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 24, 2014 2:48:34 GMT
LOL the only truly revealing part was the underblouse, which in some still photos is almost sheer when soaking wet. Hm. Best to go watch the entire movie again, just to be sure. It's been, what, five days? |
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Post by acid.milque on May 5, 2015 0:05:18 GMT
- I certainly like that she didn't do it quite consciously. But also it was dinner time and for an aristocratic family in the 30's dressing up for dinner was the norm. - Wonderfully said! I agree. She just had to suppress that for her wanting to be a nun. Remember, She was caught with her hair in curlers. I know what I'm going to say next will sound so cheesy but... Maria evolves with her costumes from the suppressed caterpillar wanting to break free and finally does when she turns into the butterfly at her wedding. I have a feeling you ladies would pay a mint for anything our leading man wore Of course! Who wouldn't? ON a side note speaking of Maria's Wedding dress, I wonder how long it would have taken them to get Julie into it. I read that Dorthy Jenkins designed them as authentic as possible (with the exception of maybe the color palette) and used closures that would have been used back then. In the film we can of course see that there are tons of tiny buttons down the back of the dress. |
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Post by utility_singer on May 5, 2015 0:21:09 GMT
My mother in 1965 had buttons like that down the back of her gown. She said it took quite a long time to get them all.
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Post by acid.milque on May 5, 2015 0:55:36 GMT
My mother in 1965 had buttons like that down the back of her gown. She said it took quite a long time to get them all. Oh! Really? Maria's Wedding Dress for Barbie Just found this on ebay! |
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Post by utility_singer on May 5, 2015 10:46:15 GMT
Oh, that's lovely! I crochet, so if I had the time and money (we're buying a bigger house and moving, ack!) I'd be all over that pattern.
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Post by clarinetjamie on May 5, 2015 17:07:54 GMT
I love the more traditional looking wedding dresses. My wedding dress was a little more classic looking. I don't know why I just love that classic look. That Barbie Maria dress is very pretty. I wish I knew how to sew, but it's the one thing that I never really got into doing.
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Post by augiesannie on May 6, 2015 19:46:10 GMT
I had a story idea once about Maria's evolving costumes making her like a butterfly. But someone else wrote it I think.
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Post by skittlesmaltesers on May 7, 2015 14:19:48 GMT
augiesannie ooh was it your honeymoon one? I really liked that one! especially the last few paragraphs of the last chapter  but yes I remember someone posted a link to a website that analysed Maria's clothes throughout the movie, it was pretty great! Can I just say though that no matter how much the Captain hates the grey dress, I think Maria looks so adorable in it. Like a little schoolgirl haha
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Post by lemacd on May 7, 2015 18:53:47 GMT
augiesannie ooh was it your honeymoon one? I really liked that one! especially the last few paragraphs of the last chapter but yes I remember someone posted a link to a website that analysed Maria's clothes throughout the movie, it was pretty great! Can I just say though that no matter how much the Captain hates the grey dress, I think Maria looks so adorable in it. Like a little schoolgirl haha RIGHT? that chapter was amazeballs. |
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Post by wildmeiling on Dec 28, 2015 15:55:34 GMT
So then, is it possible Maria could have made the blue dress? What about the party dress? I find it hard to believe anyone can make any dress because the extent of my sewing abilities is lounge pants, ha ha. (I am probably in the wrong thread for these questions. I got caught up in this one because I have also been pondering Maria's motives for wearing the blue dress when she returned from the abbey.)
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Post by clarinetjamie on Dec 28, 2015 17:01:55 GMT
I think she made it. I don't think she would have the money to have it made for her or to buy it.
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Post by Sorcha on Dec 28, 2015 17:52:10 GMT
 Finally someone appreciates that dress as much as I do! It's really one of my favorites from TSOM. Plus - the skirt twirls. Who doesn't love twirly skirts??? From ages ago but when we were watching last night, Mum and I were so jealous of the twirly skirts. WHY ARE TWIRLY SKIRTS NOT IN FASHION THESE DAYS PEOPLE?  Also there's that great story on ff.net about how the Captain buys her the material - Gazebos and Dresses by RKF55? And on the subject of her clothes, her wedding dress is one of the most beautiful ever and if I could have one half as beautiful as it if I get married I would be the happiest person alive. |
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Post by wildmeiling on Dec 28, 2015 18:34:39 GMT
@sorcha, "Gazebos and Dresses" is the first story I ever read in this fandom. I was wondering how exactly that dress came to be, and I searched around and found that story, which is wonderful. On a side note, I had the twirliest purple dress when I was younger. Oh! how I loved it.  |
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 29, 2015 1:11:52 GMT
I assume she made the dresses, for the reasons stated above, although I think a long time ago, somewhere on this board I asked where she got the material. We see dresses made from the material Frau Schmidt hands her, but not material for the later dresses. I once asked if the famous blue dress might have been made from the bathroom curtains *ducks and runs for cover*.
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Post by wildmeiling on Dec 29, 2015 1:17:40 GMT
I assume she made the dresses, for the reasons stated above, although I think a long time ago, somewhere on this board I asked where she got the material. We see dresses made from the material Frau Schmidt hands her, but not material for the later dresses. I once asked if the famous blue dress might have been made from the bathroom curtains *ducks and runs for cover*. Ha ha! I was going to suggest the Captain may have discovered curtains missing from another room after the blue dress showed up. |
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Post by thebeestings on Dec 29, 2015 1:57:18 GMT
I assume she made the dresses, for the reasons stated above, although I think a long time ago, somewhere on this board I asked where she got the material. We see dresses made from the material Frau Schmidt hands her, but not material for the later dresses. I once asked if the famous blue dress might have been made from the bathroom curtains *ducks and runs for cover*. Hilarious! Feels like there could be a great story behind that dress made from the bathroom curtains  |
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Post by augiesannie on Dec 29, 2015 2:14:29 GMT
I assume she made the dresses, for the reasons stated above, although I think a long time ago, somewhere on this board I asked where she got the material. We see dresses made from the material Frau Schmidt hands her, but not material for the later dresses. I once asked if the famous blue dress might have been made from the bathroom curtains *ducks and runs for cover*. Hilarious! Feels like there could be a great story behind that dress made from the bathroom curtains Dooooo it. |
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Post by clarinetjamie on Dec 29, 2015 7:10:50 GMT
I think you should definitely toy around with that idea. That could get quite funny!
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Post by Sorcha on Dec 29, 2015 8:02:49 GMT
I think you should definitely toy around with that idea. That could get quite funny! Maria Rainer, the scourge of the von Trapp family curtains! |
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Post by bluesatinsashes on Jan 18, 2016 3:32:24 GMT
So then, is it possible Maria could have made the blue dress? What about the party dress? I find it hard to believe anyone can make any dress because the extent of my sewing abilities is lounge pants, ha ha. (I am probably in the wrong thread for these questions. I got caught up in this one because I have also been pondering Maria's motives for wearing the blue dress when she returned from the abbey.) Maybe she wore the blue dress because it was the same dress that she wore when the Captain sang Edelweiss and couldn't keep his eyes off of her. So by wearing it, she thought she would have another chance at him. When I was a kid watching the movie, I never questioned it because it was my favourite dress of the entire movie and was so overjoyed that she wore it during the best scene (in my opinion) of the film. |
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Post by gothicbutterfly95 on Jan 18, 2016 3:54:52 GMT
I think that had something to do with it. I also think that maybe she wanted to see if Elsa was actually right about him not being able to keep his eyes off her. And I mean this in a completely non-vengeful, almost subconscious way.
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Post by utility_singer on Jan 18, 2016 12:10:46 GMT
Yes, I do think that in large part she wore it for those reasons, whether or not she was actively choosing to do so or not.
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Post by clarinetjamie on Jan 18, 2016 18:01:49 GMT
I think subconsciously she chose to wear it because it might possibly be the last time she would get to wear something like that and it was maybe her own little way of sticking it to Elsa without saying anything.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Sept 2, 2019 21:52:40 GMT
There are some wonderful theories in this thread, but a couple of things still bother me about the blue dress. First, where did it come from, and second why did she wear it during the last dinner with Elsa? It is not in the material sent out from town. We don’t see it until the puppet show. Maybe Elsa suggested to the captain after her first dinner at the villa that homemade dresses were not appropriate dinner attire for his staff so he bought her this one? Then since this is her only dinner appropriate dress, she wears it to dinner every night? This would make her wearing it during the last dinner seem less baffling at least. And kind of adds another layer of drama that Elsa would be the one responsible for her owning the dress that the captain can’t keep his eyes off of. It is hard for me to imagine someone as innocent and kind as Maria wearing this dress to intentionally upset the baroness. Or even to try to attract Georg at this point, since she seems heartbroken that she has already lost him. But all is fair in love and war, right? So, anything is possible.
On another note, do you think it bothered Elsa that Maria ate dinner with the family? She was just “the help” after all. Though I can’t picture Elsa cutting up Gretl’s food for her.
I am assuming that everyone got new dresses for the party, and that the Laendler dress was purchased then (since it was not in the material sent out from town either). It would have looked bad for Georg (and Elsa) if the staff was not dressed nicely for the party, so buying her a pretty (but not extravagant) dress would not have seemed inappropriate. That’s my take on this dress.
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but yes I remember someone posted a link to a website that analysed Maria's clothes throughout the movie, it was pretty great! Can I just say though that no matter how much the Captain hates the grey dress, I think Maria looks so adorable in it. Like a little schoolgirl haha 
Finally someone appreciates that dress as much as I do! It's really one of my favorites from TSOM. Plus - the skirt twirls. Who doesn't love twirly skirts???
Also there's that great story on ff.net about how the Captain buys her the material - Gazebos and Dresses by RKF55? And on the subject of her clothes, her wedding dress is one of the most beautiful ever and if I could have one half as beautiful as it if I get married I would be the happiest person alive.
