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Post by laurynvi on Jan 3, 2021 4:12:23 GMT
Wonderful! Can you tell us anymore about the dances we see in the film? Haha, Well, the sixteen going on seventeen scene is mostly “boy and girl running around like crazy in a storm” from what I gather - that brief bit near the end when the music slows they are in “shadow position” (side by side, stepping with the same feet). Is there any more? (Unless we count the puppets in the Lonely Goatherd... which as far as I know doesn’t have a name but my kids pretend to dance it all the time...) |
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Post by augiesannie on Jan 4, 2021 20:51:16 GMT
thanks laurynvi! I had totally forgotten about this, but I briefly dated someone who insisted we take Viennese waltz lessons in preparation for a New Year's Eve blowout. I was HORRIBLE at it (I have two left feet) and he was so mean and he broke up with me on New Year's Day. But by then I had met my husband so I kind of forgot about it until I read this post and flinched at the words "Viennese waltz." |
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Post by laurynvi on Jan 5, 2021 18:38:05 GMT
thanks laurynvi ! I had totally forgotten about this, but I briefly dated someone who insisted we take Viennese waltz lessons in preparation for a New Year's Eve blowout. I was HORRIBLE at it (I have two left feet) and he was so mean and he broke up with me on New Year's Day. But by then I had met my husband so I kind of forgot about it until I read this post and flinched at the words "Viennese waltz." OMG, that is just awful. What a jerk move, but clearly his loss.  |
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Post by reverendcaptain on Mar 2, 2021 0:00:20 GMT
We were talking over in the story discussions about if it was possible that Maria caught a sneak peek of G & E dancing to Edelweiss on her way out the door to the abbey. Thoughts?
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Post by laurynvi on Mar 2, 2021 1:31:00 GMT
I don't think in movie-verse she did - I thought it was more a sad, sweeping, I-want-to-take-a-last-look-at-everything sort of look. I think if she had seen Georg at all she would have reacted more viscerally for sure, I feel.
BUT it certainly would make for a phenomenal story.
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Post by augiesannie on Mar 3, 2021 0:29:51 GMT
I thought I had, but when I went back to look, it was just that Maria hears the waltz music when she leaves the house - she doesn't actually see them. Agree it would be a great story!
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Post by indigoblue on Mar 9, 2021 0:24:27 GMT
Someone said she glances longingly up at the children's bedroom area before she leaves.
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Post by augiesannie on Mar 10, 2021 11:42:30 GMT
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Post by indigoblue on Apr 3, 2021 22:18:45 GMT
I love how beautifully she is framed here, and how her proportions are perfect to fill the doorcase (sorry, getting a bit cinematographic).
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Post by reverendcaptain on Jan 27, 2024 1:16:09 GMT
Who initiates this dance? Elsa walks straight from talking to Max toward Georg through the dance floor. Did he beckon her over? Or did he see her coming his way and meet her half way, understanding that she wanted to dance?
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Post by indigoblue on Feb 12, 2024 0:06:54 GMT
I think she went to the dancefloor and waited expectantly, smiling directly at him; he was talking to several men friends nearby, and could hardly have missed her - to have ignored her would have been cruel (leaving her there marooned! -ooops!)
But I can't help noticing how much space there is between them when they dance, compared to the Laendler only a few minutes before. And the music the orchestra is playing is Edelweiss - is this a deliberate irony, to play the tune that brought G and M together?
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Post by reverendcaptain on Feb 14, 2024 20:30:07 GMT
I think there are no accidents on the music in this film. I wonder if Elsa picked up on this irony as well. This song probably lost any charm it may have had to her after what happened in the parlor.
Is this the first time they've danced all night? It's the first time we've seen, and they did look busy with hosting/the receiving line earlier. Interesting that Georg danced with Maria before he danced with Elsa at the party to introduce Elsa to his friends. I agree, G&E do look far apart and also kind of mechanical, like they are just going through the motions. They are smiling pleasantly, but it is missing the chemistry and playfulness G&M had during the Laendler.
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Post by indigoblue on Feb 19, 2024 23:53:31 GMT
Also the intensity: I should think dances like the Laendler should be danced fairly formally, (you get a glimpse of this when Elsa comes out onto the terrace, because you can see the guests behind in the ballroom dancing quite stiffly). At this point you can see G&M in such a clinch, I'm sure it was completely verboten to dance like that in those days - especially when your soon-to-be -fiancee is watching on...! Poor Elsa, she must have felt completely flattened.
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Post by augiesannie on Feb 22, 2024 18:23:10 GMT
That waltz moment is one of my favorite scenes. (As one might guess since I started this thread eleven years ago and shamelessly promoted my story about it!!) Agree with all of this stuff although, without much evidence for it, I also imagine Georg having some tender feelings for Elsa at this moment - out of guilt in the wake of the Laendler - so while I agree that she extends her arm to him and he hasn’t sought her out, he receives her with some grace and warmth and a bit of a fond smile. (Of course I had to rewatch to be sure of this). Also, the irony of the Edelweiss tune being used as the waltz, is also in the contrast between the fancy orchestral version at the party vs. the simple guitar version played after the puppet show when M&G connect.
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