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Post by augiesannie on Jul 5, 2021 13:24:28 GMT
this really may be the best acting in the whole film. Even though scenes like the laendler or the gazebo are sentimental favorites.
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Post by missisa on Sept 15, 2021 20:26:27 GMT
I was reading all these discussions and you guys compelled me to register in this site just to be able to comment on this! I totally agree on what you have said about the "good evening" scene and also the "Edelweiss" song and all the tons of nuances that we can all find when re-watching the movie all over again (the more you watch it, the more you discover, as some of you said so well!) I wanted to bring another scene regarding Georg's gestures which is the scene in the terrace when they are all drinking "pink lemonade" and Georg is finally taken to inform their children they're going to have "a new mother". I love the mixture of nervousness, distrust of the reaction of their children and that insecurity resulting from a decision that presumes not entirely well taken and honest with his feelings. His eyes speaks of a man who makes an effort to make an adult decision (perhaps thinking about his children), even knowing that it is not an action from the heart. He shows the pain and his internal battle to hide his feelings and show instead the joy he was supposed to feel. How he drinks the lemonade with such little conviction, not because of the taste of the drink, but because of what he going to say next. Just a top acting! Another Georgโs gesture that I love is when he has finally decided to go on the attack and appears in the garden, outside the gazebo, stalking Maria and pretending a casual encounter. I adore how it shows in his gestures, his look (and even his voice!) that breathing as if taking oxygen and thinking "here we go", trying to take the conversation where he wants, being a real bunch of nerves . It is delicious how he surrenders to his feelings and that declaration of love so intense, choked and, at the same time, so direct. And his look when, after the kiss, he finally exclaims, "I love you" so firmly and majestic. It is the best declaration of love in the history of cinema. Well that's all for now, my first post...
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Post by reverendcaptain on Sept 16, 2021 13:59:58 GMT
What an epic first post missisa ! I agree 100% I like that you brought up the lemonade scene. It could have been a very nondescript part of this scene, but he manages to make how he is drinking his lemonade reveal how uncomfortable Georg is about his situation. It's almost hard to watch that scene beacuse the silent acting is so intense. and because I know what is coming next. The gazebo! On the attack but pretending that he is casual is a perfect description. Then once he starts talking to her, he plays the seemingly confident baron but actually nervous as a schoolboy part perfectly. It is uncomfortable in it's own way, but such a different uncomfortable than the lemonade scene. Lemonade is very "I know if have to do this, but I'm dreading it." and gazebo is more "Please please please don't let me screw this up." It's adorable actually.
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Post by missisa on Sept 16, 2021 15:21:44 GMT
What an epic first post missisa ! I agree 100% I like that you brought up the lemonade scene. It could have been a very nondescript part of this scene, but he manages to make how he is drinking his lemonade reveal how uncomfortable Georg is about his situation. It's almost hard to watch that scene beacuse the silent acting is so intense. and because I know what is coming next. The gazebo! On the attack but pretending that he is casual is a perfect description. Then once he starts talking to her, he plays the seemingly confident baron but actually nervous as a schoolboy part perfectly. It is uncomfortable in it's own way, but such a different uncomfortable than the lemonade scene. Lemonade is very "I know if have to do this, but I'm dreading it." and gazebo is more "Please please please don't let me screw this up." It's adorable actually. Haha thank you! Yes, exactly, two types of being uncomfortable! one cause of his unhappiness; the other one clearly because of his hopes for everything to go well and thanks to the great acting we know at all times what the characters are feeling, even if there is no dialogue (what's more, much better in the absence of dialogue) You all describe the situations so well
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Post by indigoblue on Sept 17, 2021 23:18:42 GMT
Yes, he's so uptight in that lemonade scene. I'm probably a bit slow to realise it, but when he emerges out of the hall looking like thunder towards the beginning of that scene, I always thought it was because he is feeling so bad about Maria, but of course it is also because he knows that he is going to have to announce his engagement to Elsa - in fact, the reason he has come out of the house is because all the kids and Elsa and Max are together, so it is the right time to say something. Except he doesn't actually want to say it!
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Post by Chris&Byng on Sept 22, 2021 22:56:46 GMT
I was reading all these discussions and you guys compelled me to register in this site just to be able to comment on this! I totally agree on what you have said about the "good evening" scene and also the "Edelweiss" song and all the tons of nuances that we can all find when re-watching the movie all over again (the more you watch it, the more you discover, as some of you said so well!) I wanted to bring another scene regarding Georg's gestures which is the scene in the terrace when they are all drinking "pink lemonade" and Georg is finally taken to inform their children they're going to have "a new mother". I love the mixture of nervousness, distrust of the reaction of their children and that insecurity resulting from a decision that presumes not entirely well taken and honest with his feelings. His eyes speaks of a man who makes an effort to make an adult decision (perhaps thinking about his children), even knowing that it is not an action from the heart. He shows the pain and his internal battle to hide his feelings and show instead the joy he was supposed to feel. How he drinks the lemonade with such little conviction, not because of the taste of the drink, but because of what he going to say next. Just a top acting! Another Georgโs gesture that I love is when he has finally decided to go on the attack and appears in the garden, outside the gazebo, stalking Maria and pretending a casual encounter. I adore how it shows in his gestures, his look (and even his voice!) that breathing as if taking oxygen and thinking "here we go", trying to take the conversation where he wants, being a real bunch of nerves . It is delicious how he surrenders to his feelings and that declaration of love so intense, choked and, at the same time, so direct. And his look when, after the kiss, he finally exclaims, "I love you" so firmly and majestic. It is the best declaration of love in the history of cinema. Well that's all for now, my first post... And that, missisa is a great first post You are so right about the lemonade thing. He goes from "no thank you, darling" to "I think I am brave enough to try some of that". In a lot of ways, these statements (although about lemonade) REALLY are a reflection on the decision he has made re: marrying Elsa!
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Post by augiesannie on Sept 25, 2021 23:19:50 GMT
oh missisa that is awesome and so are everyone's responses. I especially like the image of Georg "stalking" Maria to the gazebo. And of course I went off to watch the lemonade scene as soon as I read what you wrote. "I think I'm brave enough" indeed!
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Post by reverendcaptain on Oct 6, 2021 19:18:43 GMT
This isn't really a gesture, but have you noticed how intense Georg's eyes get when he's angry? It only happens a few times - during the argument, when he realizes Zeller has read his telegram, when Max says whatever is going to happen is going to happen. Any other times that I'm forgetting? He is angry with Zeller at the party, but I don't think his eyes are dialed up to full power in that scene. His angry eyes are so expressive, and maybe even a little scary. I love it. Attachments:
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Post by missisa on Oct 6, 2021 19:29:38 GMT
Ooohhh those eyes...! What about when Georg interrupts "my favorite things" so abruptly? I love that look, maybe not that angry at all but they shine beautifully. I also remember that furious look when Max says the Anschluss have been done peacefully... uuuh.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Oct 6, 2021 19:48:04 GMT
Oh, you are right! I forgot all about "GRATEFUL?!" He has the full angry eyes in that moment too.
There are so many scenes where he is calm but you can tell he is upset by his eyes. The thunderstorm is a great example. I like after Maria says she was much more trouble at the abbey too, and then again after she blows the whistle to tell him that she doesn't know his signal. hahaha. His expression is priceless.
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Post by missisa on Oct 6, 2021 20:56:18 GMT
Not sure if it's a gesture at all and it's probably already been mentioned, but I love that look from Georg just when Maria sings Something Good and she says "miserable youth".๐ Actually, all those gazes in the gazebo (buuuu for the dark!).
I'm also thinking about his many expressions when in the car with Elsa and Max, especially when he clarifies about the Klopmann Monastery Choir.
I must say that I prefer his sad/love looks rather than the angry ones.
Well, actually, I love all his looks from literally all the movie... ๐๐๐
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Post by augiesannie on Oct 12, 2021 23:13:44 GMT
there are also these wry humorous moments, like after he asks about her being trouble at the Abbey and she says, oh, much more sir. And after the blueberries scene.
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Post by reverendcaptain on Oct 13, 2021 19:06:52 GMT
I definitely don't prefer the angry eyes, they just capture my attention. He usually looks like a (stunning) put together aritocrat. But then someone provokes him, and he looks like he is capable of murder.
My preference is when his eyes light up when he is happy - like watching the puppet show or the end of Edelweiss. Oh, and whenever he is intensely looking at Maria - The Apology, the Laendler, the whole gazebo scene. There are too many "I love his eyes" scenes to count really...
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Post by Chris&Byng on Oct 18, 2021 0:48:43 GMT
Hey y'all! Canada Post has just issued a new and awesome stamp Just ordered my own first day set
Be sure to check out the links on this page as well.
Here's a detailed view of the stamp on Dropbox:
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Post by augiesannie on Oct 18, 2021 10:49:33 GMT
Hey y'all! Canada Post has just issued a new and awesome stamp Just ordered my own first day set Be sure to check out the links on this page as well. Here's a detailed view of the stamp on Dropbox: Yes, over in the CP section, I was wondering what CP would have had to say about this - on the one hand, who doesn't like praise, on the other hand, GvT not his favorite role - but it seems like it was in the works before he died, that he was thrilled and approved the design. Which is nice to know.
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Post by reverendcaptain on May 20, 2022 19:22:37 GMT
This is not so much a gesture as a posture comment. Have you noticed how perfect Georg's posture is? Maybe this is why he looks so good in a suit - his back is always straight and his shoulders are always square. There are only 2 exceptions to this (that I can think of) - while he is watching the puppet show, and while he is sitting on the bench at the gazebo. During the puppet show has his elbows on his legs, maybe to show that he is both relaxed and leaning in so as to not miss anything in the performance? Then the gazebo..I think his posture here shows that he is vulnerable. I always kind of want to run my hand up and down his back while he is sitting on the bench (as a show of comfort people!) because he looks so much less in control when he is sitting slumped over than when he is standing at attention. Also, the moonlight kind of reflects off his back, making his slump all the more noticeable. I don't think he feels defeated, as his posture kind of indicates, but more sad with the way things have happened and hoping that they aren't ruined forever. Attachments:
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Post by missisa on May 20, 2022 20:44:18 GMT
Georg's posture is so majestic I'd say even blind people would be able to notice if they listen carefully to the subtleties of his voice...mmmm sorry i went off on a tangent... i can think about other moment when his shoulders and back are not squared: when he is hiding behind the stone tomb near Liesl. I always loved that physical closeness that he shows when he has removed his authoritarian armor and snuggles up next to his daughter, half protector, half intimidated by the situation (or maybe I just wish I was Charmian Carr in that scene).
He also appears bowed over when he sits on the sofa playing Edelweiss and then when he rests his chin on the guitar, right there I would also run my hand down his back as a sign of congratulations for his performance, oh yes, without a doubt.
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Post by reverendcaptain on May 20, 2022 21:00:31 GMT
Good remembering! I'll just add a pic from the other leaned over posture scenes mentioned....you know, for research purposes...
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Post by indigoblue on May 24, 2022 16:44:32 GMT
Maybe in the gazebo scene, his back is slouched a little at the realisation that his first 'gambit' at getting friendly with Maria has failed - all that stuff about "is it WRONG that I missed the children?" must have made him think it was going to be harder to catch her than he had thought (something he has probably never had a problem with before!)
So perhaps it is a little despair we see in there, whilst he considers how on earth he is going to woo her. But ironically, his despairing tone and demeanour are exactly what draws her to him (he probably doesn't realise how attractive that can be to a woman!). And that faint throwaway waggling of his head as he says everything was all wrong when she went away gets ME every time!
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Post by indigoblue on May 29, 2022 23:48:01 GMT
I just love how his trilby is set at that rakish angle in that last photo! - no one could wear it better...
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Post by missisa on May 30, 2022 8:26:50 GMT
Good remembering! I'll just add a pic from the other leaned over posture scenes mentioned....you know, for research purposes... It is in important to collate data scientifically and for this nothing better than pics... thank you reverendcaptain Agree with indigoblue, the Georg Von Trapp's trilby is movie history!
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Post by augiesannie on May 30, 2022 12:32:13 GMT
I have been obsessed with this movie for eleven years now, and I don't think I EVER have achieved the eagle eye that folks like reverendcaptain, missisa and indigoblue seem to possess. One of the reasons I come and go from here is that I am always running off to watch the gazebo, Laendler or whatever scene AGAIN to peruse your observations. Preferably in slo-mo. Also LOL reverendcaptain "as a show of comfort, people." Yeah, right.
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